Anton_Berg
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Doesn't it also infer that we spend more on other clubs than we get back?
Why is coming to Middlesbrough not an attractive proposition - apart from price? Surely being a tourist destination hardly comes in to it for most awayday football travellers. Distance has a lot to do with it of course but we do that every away game.We charge £30+, not very easy to get to, not a tourist destination etc. If other teams away fans are going to miss one then it makes sense that it would be ours. It's not an attractive proposition.
(PS Swansea had covid. That was the reason for late ticketing - but it was never going to sell out - it was just that we couldn't say that - just in case).Since GW39, Forest have had 4 away games and sold out for their last away match, so add 1,032, 3,700, 1,800, 1,300 and 3,634 to their total.
Making Forest's average for the season 2,208.
So it's as you were on both fronts.
1. Sheffield United : 2,233
2. Nottingham Forest: 2,208
3. Middlesbrough: 2,174
4. West Brom: 2,083
We'd had the third best away support in the Championship this season in pure numerical terms, which is brilliant.
Probably would have been second if Swansea hadn't ****ed over on ticketing.
(PS Swansea had covid. That was the reason for late ticketing - but it was never going to sell out - it was just that we couldn't say that - just in case).
Mostly for the reasons I listed. Expensive, far away, cold etc. As an away fan if you ranked all the grounds to visit in a season then ours must be somewhere near the bottom. For Northern clubs we're probably not too unattractive but for Southern clubs we might as well be on the moon. I'm sure there are many Boro fans that think similarly when they weigh up going to Cardiff, Swansea or Bournemouth especially if it's midweek. I reckon far more people would look at Bournemouth and Cardiff and think about making a weekend out of it. Other places like London clubs, Blackpool, teams near Manchester etc would benefit similarly.Why is coming to Middlesbrough not an attractive proposition - apart from price? Surely being a tourist destination hardly comes in to it for most awayday football travellers. Distance has a lot to do with it of course but we do that every away game.
None of you seem to think that Boro have fans living anywhere other than on Teesside. If there are (say) 2000 at Fulham, how many of those are MSSers living in the south?
Not many @ Fulham because the MSSers mainly buy general sale tickets and very few went on general sale.None of you seem to think that Boro have fans living anywhere other than on Teesside. If there are (say) 2000 at Fulham, how many of those are MSSers living in the south?
Ref Swansea only 12 tickets went on general sale which was a disgrace, I noticed the original Boro tickets were sold to Swansea fans.
All clubs have a big London base!!You cannot base it assuming every away fan travels from Teesside. We have a large London base of supporters who probably account for a good percentage of southern games.
Regardless our numbers are great when we do not have one game within 1 hours drive.
Same for Sheffield utd, Forest, etc etc!None of you seem to think that Boro have fans living anywhere other than on Teesside. If there are (say) 2000 at Fulham, how many of those are MSSers living in the south?
The ratio would be much smaller. Places with poor economies like Teesside will have far more people moving from Teesside to other, particularly metro areas, than vice versa. Other similar sized clubs like Blackburn, Sheffield, WBA etc will have more people living locally because even if their immediate area isn't full of jobs they are close to Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham etc. Teessiders are more likely to have to move away for work/university.You try to bring this up every time away support is mentioned and rightly get shot down every time.
Every single club will have fans in other parts of the country.
I know 3 Coventry fans who live on Teesside.
And like you've demonstrated by adding a further factor into the equasion of ticket prices its not a simple subject.We charge £30+, not very easy to get to, not a tourist destination etc. If other teams away fans are going to miss one then it makes sense that it would be ours. It's not an attractive proposition.
Possibly, but not significantly. It's just another reason not to go when fans will be justifying it to themselves. I'd say mentally £30 seems much more than £25 so it's hard to gauge. I know personally when I hear we've got £20 tickets for Preston it grabs a bit of attention. I know we can't offer £20 tickets to away fans without giving home fans the same but even if the price of the whole day isn't much different just the ticket price makes it feel like a bargain and a worthwhile trip.And like you've demonstrated by adding a further factor into the equasion of ticket prices its not a simple subject.
With regards to ticket prices though, if we charged a fiver less do you think that would have much effect on away fan numbers at The Riverside?