Doom_On_Horseback
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According to EMA. get it back online!
AZ safe and effective
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Lemmy_kilmister
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Had mine today 
Norman_Conquest
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EU playing with peoples lives to try and prove a point to Britain.
I'm getting mine on Saturday.
I'm getting mine on Saturday.
Doom_On_Horseback
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COVID-19: European regulator says Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is 'safe and effective'
The EMA says the Oxford jab is not linked to an overall risk of blood clots - but is still investigating a rare clotting disorder.
NorthumberlandBoro
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As we knew it was!
SmallTown
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They aren't though. I thought we have covered this. the EMA have NEVER declared unsafe, Approved it for use months ago and now confirm it's safe. I don't understand this weird current trend of blaming the EU for things they don't do.
Norman_Conquest
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So why did they stop using it?
Edit: I know the EMA didn't declare it unsafe, but European governments stopped using and went against the advice their experts offered.
spanishman
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They didn't. Some individual countries did. To different degrees at different times.
Ingleby_Flash
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ST’s point is it was some European countries plus others who stopped using it, not the EU.
Low_Key
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most definitely
Ingleby_Flash
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However since it included all of the major players it’s a slightly pedantic point.
Andy_W
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I'd have taken it the day they said it was ready for human trials, the reward has always been worth the risk, especially reducing the risk of passing onto others and doing my bit to ensure a slower spread.
It shouldn't have got to the stage it's at now, with all these silly doubts and pauses, it's been in trials since July and approved in the UK since December. There shouldn't be any pauses or stoppages anywhere until it's proven to be a problem, not at times where there is still widespread infection (like in the EU). As far as risk v reward goes, the risk is never going to outweigh the reward, just let people take it, and don't let people publish crap which will raise doubts when the doubt is not proportional to the Reward v risk.
It shouldn't have got to the stage it's at now, with all these silly doubts and pauses, it's been in trials since July and approved in the UK since December. There shouldn't be any pauses or stoppages anywhere until it's proven to be a problem, not at times where there is still widespread infection (like in the EU). As far as risk v reward goes, the risk is never going to outweigh the reward, just let people take it, and don't let people publish crap which will raise doubts when the doubt is not proportional to the Reward v risk.
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spanishman
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This is down to decisions about risk assessment. There is no right answer. It comes down to an analysis of circumstances.
Doom_On_Horseback
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Ever the optimist, I'm hoping that because it's been such big news, and that the EMA have checked it again and emphasized that it's fine, that people in Europe will accept it. But I guess we'll see.
spanishman
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Not at first it grew over time.
TeaCider
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There was already a great deal of reluctance to take it after the previous daft decision in many countries to restrict the use of it for over-65s.
Many politicians have repeatedly **** on the vaccine in public too, it's surely going to take a while for the impact of that to go away.
spanishman
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Do people not really understand assessment of risk? There are bound to be different views on this taken by different countries.