sherlock
Well-known member
So it begins
So what begins?
So it begins
True but it’s not like teenagers obey all laws, they are always gonna try and look cool to their mates in some way.Which is why you need strong laws to protect kids from being manipulated by these companies
They are but if it makes it more difficult for kids to get hold of vapes regularly and to stop marketing them at kids then it’ll helpTrue but it’s not like teenagers obey all laws, they are always gonna try and look cool to their mates in some way.
BAN EVERYTHING!Seriously. If you are worried about the future why the **** are you all driving around in cars. getting on planes. Eating meat and whatnot.
That may well be true but down under we have always taken a hard line on smoking and this is not a surprise move. There is a huge problem of the importation of illicit product from the Far East and by attempting to cut this off at the source is a good start.Whilst I disagree with the way disposable vapes are targeted at children I think Australia are just going to create a black market for another drug. Its a war no country has ever won.
I am aware, nz have some strong laws introduced a couple of years ago on buying cigarettes too with a total ban based on dob.That may well be true but down under we have always taken a hard line on smoking and this is not a surprise move. There is a huge problem of the importation of illicit product from the Far East and by attempting to cut this off at the source is a good start.
I am not disagreeing with you at all about the black market point I am merely trying to give a little colour on why they are doing it and why I believe it is good that they are.I am aware, nz have some strong laws introduced a couple of years ago on buying cigarettes too with a total ban based on dob.
I am not sure how I feel about this. I did share some research on the last vaping thread that highlighted 2 important facts. In the 16 to 19 year old cohort, vapers had previously smoked cigarettes. But, in the 13 to 16 cohort there were an alarming number of people vaping who had never smoked. 27% if I recall correctly.
Will restricting vaping have a net positive health impact? I don't know.
This also sits beside my original point that vapes will just become a blackmarket commodity and enrich criminals.
The issue here isn't whether we should pass legislation to stop children taking up vaping. It's more to do with what would that legislation look like to be most effective.
I wasn't disagreeing with you either Abel, more adding colour to my first post.I am not disagreeing with you at all about the black market point I am merely trying to give a little colour on why they are doing it and why I believe it is good that they are.
That may well be true but down under we have always taken a hard line on smoking and this is not a surprise move. There is a huge problem of the importation of illicit product from the Far East and by attempting to cut this off at the source is a good start.
Doubt that’s the motivation. As our down under friends have said on this thread the health impacts are worrying.More like a hard line on raising as much tax as possible.