Are we turning the Ukrainian people into targets?

[Steer]

Hooray - this has turned into another thread where the point being discussed has been hijacked by the same poster, who says insulting things but does not like insulting things being said back to him/her.

I agree - are mods happy for so many threads to end up the same on here?

 

[A]

Silly boy.

Why would I put my brexit concerns aside? When Russian interference helped influence the result and the weakened state of the UK and the EU has helped embolden Putin to attack Ukraine. It's an uncomfortable truth for all brexit voters that to some small degree they are complicit in this attack.

And by that logic, tory voters too, but we know ST didn't vote for Doris, he just happened to put his X in the tory box

 

[NYboro]

Hooray - this has turned into another thread where the point being discussed has been hijacked by the same poster, who says insulting things but does not like insulting things being said back to him/her.

I agree - are mods happy for so many threads to end up the same on here?

There is an ignore function.....

 

[SmallTown]

I wasn't trying to "refute" anything. I was giving my opinion of you and wondering why you're allowed to get away with what you do

Right, so you're angry with what I said, but you are unable to refute it? So, the question should be why are you angry with what I said?

Because from your posts on here, you seem to be angry simply because it was me that said them? Which makes no sense.

 

[SmallTown]

Indeed, takes a disturbed mind to make that link.

It doesn't and I've explained why.

INteresting how someone has said this thread has gone to insults. I had noticed it to, I wonder why, when you can't argue with what I've said, you just regress to insults?

 

[SmallTown]

That sounds familiar doesn't it?

As for ST's comment on those who voted for brexit been complicit surely that's a terrible attempt at a wind up and frankly a little disturbing?

No wind up no, a fact as I see it

 

[Millbrook]

It doesn't and I've explained why.

INteresting how someone has said this thread has gone to insults. I had noticed it to, I wonder why, when you can't argue with what I've said, you just regress to insults?

You're right - it's because you deserve nothing but scornful abuse when you post comments like you did then try to weasel your way out of it.

 

[Randy]

No wind up no, a fact as I see it

Wow.

By your reckoning that applies to all conservative voters then?

 

[SmallTown]

Wow.

By your reckoning that applies to all conservative voters then?

Yes. Do keep up. It’s really disappointing that so many of you jsit want to get angry and insult and are unwilling to actually follow the conversation. I guess it’s easier just to insult me. But it’s very depressing to see you all do that. At least Millbrook engaged with me rather than insulting right off the bat. Oh, I’ve just released even he has degraded himself with abuse now. That’s sad

 

[Randy]

Yes. Do keep up. It’s really disappointing that so many of you jsit want to get angry and insult and are unwilling to actually follow the conversation. I guess it’s easier just to insult me. But it’s very depressing to see you all do that. At least Millbrook engaged with me rather than insulting right off the bat. Oh, I’ve just released even he has degraded himself with abuse now. That’s sad

Where have I insulted?

Anyways I'm out of this line of debate, it's worthless. Rob will be along soon I'm guessing.

 

[SmallTown]

Where have I insulted?

Anyways I'm out of this line of debate, it's worthless. Rob will be along soon I'm guessing.

You’re not actually following the conversation though are you? Just misreading something and getting annoyed at me without being able to explain why

 

[Randy]

You’re not actually following the conversation though are you? Just misreading something and getting annoyed at me without being able to explain why

"It's an uncomfortable truth for all brexit voters that to some small degree they are complicit in this attack."

SmallTown.
March 3rd 2022.

 

[whinneybanksaint]

Was listening to LBC earlier and a caller made a point I had not considered before.

He said that ultimately Russia will take Ukraine and it's obvious that all The West are prepared to do is supply them with weapons. These weapons make the fight longer and increase the ferocity of Russian aggression. This in turn will cause far greater Ukrainian deaths.

I don't necessarily agree but I can see the point he is making which brings me to the main question that non of us know the answer to: What is The West's end game?

- If Russia take Ukraine do we fund the forces fighting to take it back?
- Do we accept it and keep sanctions on Russia?
- Do we go in and help?
- Do we enforce a no fly zone?

Am I daft for thinking that this might be another conflict where we have no idea what our plan or end game is? And in the meantime we are letting the Ukrainians be cannon fodder for the Russians? And if this is right should we go in now?

I think maybe the biggest question we are trying to decide is would Putin launch an attack on NATO if we got involved. If we think that's no we'd surely be in by now. And maybe that's what we are afraid of and that's why we are say back watching the Ukrainians die as they fight for their country. jesus, we won't even let them into our country as refugees.

Maybe Putin counted on this and knew we wouldn't get involved. After all sanctions aren't stopping him.

To

Finland and Sweden are potential targets as they are seemingly considering the NATO option and Putin has already openly warned Finland against it and has recently used his air force to violate Swedish air space in order to test their responses. The man is simply not rational and therefore hard to second guess.

Moldova will most likely be next,
Not part of Nato or EU, Already a puppet pro russian enclave on the border with Ukraine. Already has Russian troops stationed there.
Striking similarities with Hitler. The propoganda coming from Russia to its own people is both frightening and sickening !

 

[Steve8778]

"It's an uncomfortable truth for all brexit voters that to some small degree they are complicit in this attack."

SmallTown.
March 3rd 2022.

Comments such as these are just trolling for a reaction. Best off not feeding it.

 

[TMG501]

Wow.

By your reckoning that applies to all conservative voters then?

Yes. Do keep up. It’s really disappointing that so many of you jsit want to get angry and insult and are unwilling to actually follow the conversation. I guess it’s easier just to insult me. But it’s very depressing to see you all do that. At least Millbrook engaged with me rather than insulting right off the bat. Oh, I’ve just released even he has degraded himself with abuse now. That’s sad

Oh dear oh dear oh dear! Did you really shoot yourself in the foot there?

 

[SmallTown]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear! Did you really shoot yourself in the foot there?

No I really didn’t!

 

[SmallTown]

Comments such as these are just trolling for a reaction. Best off not feeding it.

They aren’t though. It’s how I feel and I’ve explained why. Let’s be perfectly clear here: not a single one of you has successfully argued what I said, you’ve just insulted me instead. Makes me even more sure I’m correct, that none of you can refute my comment.

 

[SmallTown]

Gobsmacked at this post and that the poster is trying to defend it.

Were they complicit in his attacks on Georgia and Crimea plus his abhorrent destruction of Aleppo?

Utter rubbish.

It’s not. And I’ve explained why. Instead of insults, like everyone else, why don’t you try and refute what I’ve said?

That’s the issue isn’t it: some people hate the fact I hate Brexit and hate it even more that I know how to attack it. You all know you can’t refute what I’m saying so you just attack me. It’s sad you can’t even form a coherent argument. But Brexit never was about coherence and intelligent thought was it?

 

[Steer]

There is an ignore function.....

I have done now, but its such a shame that thread after thread of potentially interesting coversation degenates into petty point scoring and the same overbearing opinion being pressed on everyone.

 

[Kosovo]

They aren’t though. It’s how I feel and I’ve explained why. Let’s be perfectly clear here: not a single one of you has successfully argued what I said, you’ve just insulted me instead. Makes me even more sure I’m correct, that none of you can refute my comment.

Sorry for insulting you by saying ‘Fair play for your reply‘.