Apparently Teesside is no longer part of the North East when it comes to 'levelling up'

[Chris_Boro]

Yup. And it has been an unmitigated disaster for the Labour Party itself. New Labour stupidity.

Would refusing devolution have been a success?

 

[Colin Warnek]

Would refusing devolution have been a success?

Once the cat is out of the bag….

It didn’t need to be out at all.

NL thought it would kill off the Tories chances at election time but in fact it has come to kill off Labour’s

 

[Chris_Boro]

Once the cat is out of the bag….

It didn’t need to be out at all.

NL thought it would kill off the Tories chances at election time but in fact it has come to kill off Labour’s

Think there may have been one or two more factors involved in that. Devaluation was always going to happen, to deny it would've been equally damaging to Labour.

 

[JackG]

Why should Scottish voters vote Labour?

Not so much a pro-Labour vote, but for starters
- Unionists abandoning the Tories. They'll still want to oppose the SNP
- disillusioned 'Red Wall' voters returning to the fold
- remainers who think Starmer is lying about Brexit and is their best bet for a return to EU, BRINO or similar.

 

[asredastheycome]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1608031248928194561

1.4 billion spread over 30 years split between 7 areas is not very much at all.

 

[SmogonOuseburn]

1.4 billion spread over 30 years split between 7 areas is not very much at all.

Agreed! One North East, the development agency abolished in 2012 had £350m p.a. from Central Government to invest in the Region. That’s over £10bn over 30 years.

 

[Chris_Boro]

Scottish Parliament seats by numbers:

2019 - 22 Starmer ( SNP - Labour 3rd)
2016 - 24 Corbyn (SNP - Labour 3rd)
2011 - 37 Brown (SNP most seats)
2007 - 46 Blair (SNP most seats)
2003 - 50 Blair (Labour most seats)
1999 - 56 Blair (Labour most seats)

General election/MPs by numbers

2019 - 1 Corbyn
2017 - 7 Corbyn
2015 - 1 Milliband
2010 - 41 Brown
2006 - 46 Blair
2001 - 56 Blair
1997 - 56 Blair

The Labour Party has done nothing but decline in Scotland for 20+ years apart from a temporary increase for Corbyn



So looking at the data and using your own arguments Scots are increasingly moving away From Labour. Why is that?

Do you actually read anything I post?

They may end up not gaining more seats at the next election, however on CURRENT POPULAR OPINION they will. Shockingly, that may also change.

The SNP/independence rise was the cause of the Labour downfall in Scotland due to their potential for change, now they are being judged on their record just as the Tories are, some aren't happy with that record and likely to return to Labour, especially if they are on course for a Westminster majority.

The next election will be very very different to 2019.