Apparently it was a 'mutant algorithm'

Cooper671 said:
The civil servant “taking the can“ had been lined up to be replaced prior to this, as per reports due to doubts to whether he could carry out the role.

That’s what the opening post relates too, so there’s my answer.

See everyone supports suppression of posters with opposing views though. As a long standing poster on FMTTM it is frustrating so I have every right to “bleat” it’s easy to criticise when it’s not happening to you, clearly you support the algorithm too.
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Slater had been the permanent secretary at the DfE for four years and was due to 'step down' in Spring 2021.

He has been sacked and is 'carrying the can' for Williamson and Gibb who are seemingly untouchable along with the rest of the rabble.

It's preposterous to state that someone who has been in position for four years can suddenly be doubted over his ability/suitability to carry out the role.

I doubt very much that you are being suppressed, you're never off here. You're right about one thing though, you don't half bleat.
 
Cooper671 said:
Isn’t there an algorithm built into this board to slow down or deter nuisance or unwanted posters?

There must have been human intervention so it’s clear what if is. Posters affected
me
boromike
Fat Cat

When brought up by FatCat before he was accused of basically lying and insisting their was a conspiracy by admin accused certain posters.

If algorithms can only occur with human interaction then it shows their possibly is something that tries to shut out people on this board due to political standing
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And this is relevant to the exam fiasco how?
 
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El Guapo said:
I don’t think any poster should be suppressed. Healthy debate makes the world a better place in the long run. I have no idea how such algorithms work though so can’t really comment.
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Correct you would think so, but no. As you can see you are accused of bleating about it if you do complain. So clearly suppression is supported by some. Funny it’s supposed be to deter unwanted or nuisance posters but my account has been subject since day 1. So must have been some human interaction as I hadn’t even posted
 
Ah right so I’m just making it all up then. The fact you also accused FatCat of lying shows you dorm believe it (I cant even quote the post this time)

So I stopped using my original account Cooper6711 when it started on that account. I then have posted many times about it including on the new board sticky. Also asked rob who said “don’t know”. Borolad confirmed that was an algorithm. I also stated the only way round it to use the board is to browse logged out, log in (when you want to post) and then delete the browsing history (if you remain logged in the site won’t load) all just for a laugh?

yeah ok then , clearly you are fine with supressing other views, it’s ok to admit it
 
Cooper671 said:
Ah right so I’m just making it all up then. The fact you also accused FatCat of lying shows you dorm believe it (I cant even quote the post this time)

So I stopped using my original account Cooper6711 when it started on that account. I then have posted many times about it including on the new board sticky. Also asked rob who said “don’t know”. Borolad confirmed that was an algorithm. I also stated the only way round it to use the board is to browse logged out, log in (when you want to post) and then delete the browsing history (if you remain logged in the site won’t load) all just for a laugh?

yeah ok then , clearly you are fine with supressing other views, it’s ok to admit it
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Chris_Boro said:
And this is relevant to the exam fiasco how?
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Way_Out_West said:
As a civil servant yourself Cooper, I would have thought you would have been dismayed at the thought of a civil servant being moved out of post while a minister rides it out. It is a Tory minister though, so in your mind can do no wrong?
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Well, bit difficult because the senior civil service is nothing like the “Normal” civil service. I do think it is abit stale probably with jobs going to the same kinda SCS. It could do with a clean out. They seem to move from one department to another no matter how they perform, abit like politicians.

I’ve never said I believe Williamson shouldn’t go either, I am a believer in not screaming for a resignation each time something goes wrong though, hence why departments have no consistency from the top, like mine. There had to be some consistency from the top in the roles, each new minister had new plans and old one ago out the window, which can’t be right in the long run.

I would have him in last chance saloon because of that belief, once you get trigger happy it’s game over for the department
 
The nature of ministers is transitory, the CS underneath them is supposed to provide an element of stability. I do agree that there should be a longer term strategy with ministers though, they really should have a pool big enough to have experts in each field as the minister, and keep them there (allowing for competency!). Too many cabinet reshuffles leads to too much waste of time and resources.

Edit: and too many ministers unqualified for their position, particularly in this government.
 
Cooper671 said:
The civil servant “taking the can“ had been lined up to be replaced prior to this, as per reports due to doubts to whether he could carry out the role.

That’s what the opening post relates too, so there’s my answer.

See everyone supports suppression of posters with opposing views though. As a long standing poster on FMTTM it is frustrating so I have every right to “bleat” it’s easy to criticise when it’s not happening to you, clearly you support the algorithm too.
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I support your algorithm.(y)
 
Way_Out_West said:
The nature of ministers is transitory, the CS underneath them is supposed to provide an element of stability. I do agree that there should be a longer term strategy with ministers though, they really should have a pool big enough to have experts in each field as the minister, and keep them there (allowing for competency!). Too many cabinet reshuffles leads to too much waste of time and resources.

Edit: and too many ministers unqualified for their position, particularly in this government.
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Agree with all that, what I would say is in my 10 years at HMRC I think I had 4 PS and 2 so far in DWP so there is a quick turnover in that area too. What you will find is departments lower down the food chain will have PS promoted out to so they suffer high turnover.
 
And still @Cooper671 talks about the civil service instead of the key question - why is a civil servant the fall guy when the Minister should assume full responsibility for his or her department.

Why no criticism of the Govt in regards to the plethora of **** ups and corrupt practices that seem to define them?

You’re a fanatic, and when you’re a fanatic of a right wing government completely removed from the struggles of 99 percent of the population you’re complicit in what they do.
 
WeeGord said:
And still @Cooper671 talks about the civil service instead of the key question - why is a civil servant the fall guy when the Minister should assume full responsibility for his or her department.

Why no criticism of the Govt in regards to the plethora of **** ups and corrupt practices that seem to define them?

You’re a fanatic, and when you’re a fanatic of a right wing government completely removed from the struggles of 99 percent of the population you’re complicit in what they do.
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You won't ever get an answer to a question that would possibly entertain the idea that the gov. are incompetent. Utterly blinkered and in denial.
 
Now I haven't really followed the story. But from what I read they took the predicted grades and then altered them due to the previous performance of the school to try and remove bias. And then there were complaints that it disadvantaged poorer students from s***y schools. Doesn't that mean the fault does not lie with the Tories, or the civil servants but with the school system. And that this year's students will be the first to not be disadvantaged by going to a s***y school?
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Now I haven't really followed the story. But from what I read they took the predicted grades and then altered them due to the previous performance of the school to try and remove bias. And then there were complaints that it disadvantaged poorer students from s***y schools. Doesn't that mean the fault does not lie with the Tories, or the civil servants but with the school system. And that this year's students will be the first to not be disadvantaged by going to a s***y school?
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Doesn't work like that at all. The issue was that it completely disadvantaged students as it was based on previous performance against like for like years; the problem was that you could have gifted students in a year group being penalised for previous underperformance by last years students and students who are in smaller classes being awarded higher grades. It favoured private schools by it's very nature and was an utter disgrace; I know of one student who didn't attend from January but gained a higher grade based on his primary school work (higher than his teacher prediction); how is that a fair process? The algorithm was set up to predict the grades and they should've listened to teacher predicitions in the first place; for schools that had jumped a huge % all they needed to do was ask the schools to provide evidence in the FIVE MONTHS they have had to sort this and they could've penalised schools if they were inflating their grades but they chose to sit and do nothing as usual.
 
WeeGord said:
And still @Cooper671 talks about the civil service instead of the key question - why is a civil servant the fall guy when the Minister should assume full responsibility for his or her department.

Why no criticism of the Govt in regards to the plethora of **** ups and corrupt practices that seem to define them?

You’re a fanatic, and when you’re a fanatic of a right wing government completely removed from the struggles of 99 percent of the population you’re complicit in what they do.
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I was responding to way out west comment and continued the conversation. Didn’t know I wasn’t allowed
 
Cooper671 said:
I was responding to way out west comment and continued the conversation. Didn’t know I wasn’t allowed
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Stop tripping over your bottom lip and twisting things - you're entitled to an opinion but you never give one, just deflect and spin.

For a supposed Labour supporter to go had right fanatic follower of this Government suggests you've far bigger problems than a supposed algorithm to make posting difficult.

There's a reason why you feel singled out on here and it's because you're a Tory troll who has such blind faith in the most vile government this country has ever had. Most people have the decency and compassion that you and your unwavering support of this government is clearly missing; a government that is inflicting absolute misery on millions of its own people while feathering the nests of the inner circle.

It's rotten to the core and your continued support and fanboy status rightly sickens decent minded and fair people.

Stop crying on about your supposed difficulty posting, open your eyes and smell the coffee man. Your petulant poor little Coops act is embarrassing.
 
Really, how many actual pro Tory posts do I put on, really? Have a look. Do I promote Tory policy or massively defend it, think you’ll find I’m somewhere in between. Clearly on this board though unless you anti Tory your classed as massively Tory which isn’t the case. You compared me to smoggy (which since discussed privately) but I’m nothing like him, he was a Tory shell. How many posts on this forum have I started that are pro Tory? Have a look and tell me.

I like you WG, respect your posts and told you can msg me anytime privately as you know I’m different to this persona people have. But you seem to have fell back into that belief
 
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