Anti China

I fail to see why people think that anyone would think China deserve anything less.

They've been a diplomatic shambles since this whole situation started, the Doctors who reported it, disappeared?

Now they are scrambling to help Europe/US - sending Doctors to Italy and financial aid to the EU etc.

Do you really think that they are going to be allowed to get away with this?

We'll see manufacturing thrive in this country and the EU as we won't have any choice, and there is no doubt that economic sanctions will be placed on China, and rightly so.
 
I fail to see why people think that anyone would think China deserve anything less.

They've been a diplomatic shambles since this whole situation started, the Doctors who reported it, disappeared?

Now they are scrambling to help Europe/US - sending Doctors to Italy and financial aid to the EU etc.

Do you really think that they are going to be allowed to get away with this?

We'll see manufacturing thrive in this country and the EU as we won't have any choice, and there is no doubt that economic sanctions will be placed on China, and rightly so.
Yeah, let's pull together to combat Covid19!
 
It's not really about that is it, ultimately its about a justifiable response to a pandemic that they could have prevented happening.

However, we'll all just blame our government instead.
 
It's not really about that is it, ultimately its about a justifiable response to a pandemic that they could have prevented happening.

However, we'll all just blame our government instead.
Who's blaming "our government"?
You're very quick to accept China's guilt in all this - why? Southampton University?
The fact still remains, we've got more chance of successfully coming through this if we pull together.
 
Why would Southampton University have anything to do with what I've posted? I have zero affiliation with them.

Most people are blaming our governments response for how out of control we've let it get - I agree with a lot of it. However, China need to answer some serious questions.
 
Why would Southampton University have anything to do with what I've posted? I have zero affiliation with them.

Most people are blaming our governments response for how out of control we've let it get - I agree with a lot of it. However, China need to answer some serious questions.
Is this a quiz?
 
I despise the chineese regime not the innocent population I really wish we didn't trade with a country with such an appalling human rights record. Lets be honest their competitive advantage comes from terrible workers rights its never been a level playing field with the Western world.

Glover we trade will lots of counties with appalling human rights records. Sad that we put profit before morals.
 
And anyway, you can't have been watching the news if you think the US could start a war with China.

He won't start a war with China, not unless he's even more unhinged than he appears. Maybe one of its neighbours. Pick a fight with Vietnam, he's started feuds with just about everybody else. What could go wrong? That should be an easy win.
 
I'll continue to mention it because their lies got us into this mess in the first place.

They knew about human to human transmission back in December and did nothing for two months allowing the virus to spread overseas yet halted domestic travel from Wuhan. Instead of making every post about China that I contribute to all about me, why don't you just face the facts about their zero compassion for human life and people's livelihoods?

95% of the worlds cases and deaths would have been avoided if they acted two weeks earlier according to studies at Southampton University, around about the same time Taiwan was trying to alert the WHO and the world, but because China will do anything to drown out Taiwan, the world was cut off from key information.

As for the current situation, I still can't get out of China, I have had 3 flights cancelled. My next flight out is scheduled for June 16th. The situation is the same last time I posted, three cities in the north east of China are under lockdown and any mention of the virus situation in China is heavily censored. State run media are continuing to run stories that the virus came from America, kids are being used on propaganda soundbites and more journalists are disappearing. So, as you were.
Instead of blaming the Chinese, why dont you get on to the British Embassy?
Over here, the Foreign Office are saying they have provided flights and exits for Britains stranded abroad.

Like the lies about their planning and preparation for the pandemic, our Government has much to answer for as we have the second highest death rate in the world.

Stay safe.
 
I fail to see why people think that anyone would think China deserve anything less.

They've been a diplomatic shambles since this whole situation started, the Doctors who reported it, disappeared?

Now they are scrambling to help Europe/US - sending Doctors to Italy and financial aid to the EU etc.

Do you really think that they are going to be allowed to get away with this?

We'll see manufacturing thrive in this country and the EU as we won't have any choice, and there is no doubt that economic sanctions will be placed on China, and rightly so.
Little England "sanctions" [against] China.
Presumably our Government will stop the incoming PPE supplies from China and send them back?!
That will teach them wont it?
Rubbish.
 
It's not really about that is it, ultimately its about a justifiable response to a pandemic that they could have prevented happening.

However, we'll all just blame our government instead.
"They"?
I trust you mean the British Government?

They who ignored the findings of Exercise Cygnus?

You will find ths report from NHS England [2017] - "Emergency Preparedness,Resillience and Response" [EPRR] challenging, but factual:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6820763-Board-Paper-300317-Item-10.html#document/

NHS England highlighted urgent priorities for a critical incident such as a pandemic in 2017.
Their conclusion may interest you:

Priorities for 2017/18
20. The EPRR work programme for 2017/18 will include:
a. Development of an action plan based on the EPRR Assurance Programme
outcomes of 2016/17;
b. Agreement of the assurance process for 2017/18, including a review of the NHS
England Core Standards and updated guidance for EPRR;
c. Ensuring NHS England staff are appropriately trained and undertake planning
for EPRR exercises;
d. Finalisation of the work already undertaken to develop the NHS response to a
mass casualty incident;
e. Engaging in reconfiguration and service redesign, ensuring capacity and
capability to respond to major incidents;
f. Continuing to work with the Department of Health on Pandemic Influenza
readiness and policy; and
g. Ensuring changes to working practice as part of the Home Office review into
MTFA model response are captured and implemented in the NHS Ambulance
Service response, with oversight from NHS England via the National
Ambulance Resilience Unit.

Summary and recommendations to the Board
21. The Board is invited to:


Note progress made over the last year on the EPRR work programme and the
successful response to incidents detailed within this paper; and

Receive assurance that NHS England and the NHS in England are prepared to
respond to an emergency, and have resilience in relation to the continued
provision of safe patient care.


Matthew Swindells
National Director: Operations and Information
March 2017

"They" - The Government ignored the report and continued to ignore the need to provide sufficient resources and equipment in the face of such an eventuality.

Constant privatisatio and asset stripping of our health service doomed it to failure and the Government were and are well aware of this fact.
 
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