And now doctors threaten to strike.

Laughing said:
On the subject of doctors striking, they have my support. A junior doctor newly qualified earns 29k a year. This is after 6 years of uni and in excess of 100k debt.
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Yup, same here, they're 100% right to do this.

They get absolutely dicked on for the first 20 years of their careers, the supposed best part of their lives, where they have next to zero social life, how do you put a price on that :cry:

Then, once they get passed this, they may earn 50-100k a year or whatever, but by god if any trade earns it, they do, and it has the most value of anything, for everyone.

I think they put in about 60-80 hours a week and 60 hours a week is like 1.5 "normal" jobs, and say you can earn 30k with little training compared to a doctor, so to me the first 45k they earn is only what someone in an average trade would be earning anyway, based on the same hours, it's ludicrous.
 
Add nurses onto this too, they get shafted as well, and get treat far worse than the doctors by some of the public. From what my mates say, working in A&E sounds like more risk than working in a war zone, and the lack of respect sounds shocking.
 
None of this is about doctors, nurses, barristers, rail workers etc, it's about 12 years of Tory austerity battering the critical services of this country down to it's knees.

Something that was supposed to be temporary became the norm for the Tories, huge real terms pay and "efficiency" cuts were imposed on the lie that eventually this would lead to pay increases in the future, the future however was Boris Johnson.

The people who work in our critical public services have had enough, had enough of being demonised for wanting the pay increase they deserve for 12 years of Tory ideology that made them pay for the mistakes of the financial industry.

It doesn't matter what profession it is or what they supposedly earn, after 12 years of cuts, 10% inflation is the 1000th cut.

If nothing is done, then our NHS, criminal justice system, schooling and critical infrastructure to name but a few, will fail, then we all suffer.
 
Chris_Boro said:
None of this is about doctors, nurses, barristers, rail workers etc, it's about 12 years of Tory austerity battering the critical services of this country down to it's knees.

Something that was supposed to be temporary became the norm for the Tories, huge real terms pay and "efficiency" cuts were imposed on the lie that eventually this would lead to pay increases in the future, the future however was Boris Johnson.

The people who work in our critical public services have had enough, had enough of being demonised for wanting the pay increase they deserve for 12 years of Tory ideology that made them pay for the mistakes of the financial industry.

It doesn't matter what profession it is or what they supposedly earn, after 12 years of cuts, 10% inflation is the 1000th cut.

If nothing is done, then our NHS, criminal justice system, schooling and critical infrastructure to name but a few, will fail, then we all suffer.
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As said, it's normal service. They spend most of their time attacking you and then expect you to be grateful when they then hand you a plaster, which they then charge you for.
 
JM14 said:
Regardless of what they earn they have still had a pay cut in real terms over the last 10 years, no way can anyone justify that regardless of how high the wage is.
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Totally agree, but I'd start with those using food banks rather those over £100k and MP's.
 
Unsurprisingly his excuse that inflation will be transitory is disingenuous. If inflation returns to normal next year and pay rises can match inflation again (which they haven't since the Tories took power) then staff still would've had a pay cut. A return to 2% inflation means they'll never catch up the 10% they lost this year.

Either he is lying again about how inflation linked pay works out he doesn't understand it. Either is unforgivable for someone in his position.
 
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I think the sudden increase in the cost of living has brought to the surface almost 15 years of failed economic policy, in terms of austerity.

Austerity has been pretty much debunked by the economics community, but the net result is that public servants are now significantly worse off than they were 15 years ago and most people are feeling the impact of high taxation and low remuneration, so what we're seeing now is the chickens coming home to roost.

And all while this government thinks it legitimate to legalise the awarding of unlimited bonuses for company execs.
 
r00fie1 said:
Staff in the NHS have taken a pay-cut over the last 12 years.
There is a shortage of 40,000+ nurses, and a chronic shortage of European and non-European healthcare support workers since the Government sent them back over the water post-brexit.
Services have been cherry-picked by privatisation - leaving those of us who cant afford to pay in the private sector - waiting in long lines and seeing a major reduction in basic healthcare.
Its deliberate policy - and anyone who tells us otherwise is a liar.
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Eventually the NHS will crumble and the Tories will say it needs privatising to save it. And the people will agree because the Tories will have run it into the ground.
 
Caesium137 said:
Ah, by me implicitly stating 'my GP' I've obviously applied that to every Doctor in the UK regardless of seniority or hours worked haven't I.
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So who are the "poor buggers" you refer to?

Anyway don't be so touchy.....................

More important things to get worked up about than a bit of message board banter.
 
My understanding is that gp's are, generally, self employed, or mollies but the owner of the surgery and do not get a salary but a payment per registered patient. They would be outside the node payment structure that doctors are striking about.

Go speak to some junior doctors doing their rotation in a and e then come back and critsize the industrial action.
 
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