An informative thread on military logistics

zzzzz said:
Threaten people on here and it's a ban not the naughty step and rightly so.
You're either 14 or just a halfwit or both but that's no excuse.
You need to delete your threats and apologise.
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No, because my threats are as empty as my head.
 
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Really?

"Next home match is 19th March.. 2:30pm outside McDonald's near cineworld, don't expect to watch the match.. you'll be heading to hospital in a Teesside ambulance at 2:35pm"
 
The longer this war goes on the more desperate Putin will become. As for the logistics problems...it might take the Russians time but they will solve their issues unfortunately. Finland kicked their ar$es in 1939 at first but then they were steamrollered.
 
Richyboro said:
The longer this war goes on the more desperate Putin will become. As for the logistics problems...it might take the Russians time but they will solve their issues unfortunately. Finland kicked their ar$es in 1939 at first but then they were steamrollered.
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I think a lot of people, including the experts, have been surprised at the abject performace of the Russian army.
They'll just sit back now and bombard the towns and cities.
So tragic.
 
zzzzz said:
I think a lot of people, including the experts, have been surprised at the abject performace of the Russian army.
They'll just sit back now and bombard the towns and cities.
So tragic.
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If you look at some of the interviews on Twitter with captured Russian troops they give the impression that they had no information or reason as to why they were going into the Ukraine. One Commander stated 'when this is all over Russia will be a pariah state with no friends in Europe and most of the world' Did Vlad not thing of the ramifications of HIS actions and how HIS people will soon be starving.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
If you look at some of the interviews on Twitter with captured Russian troops they give the impression that they had no information or reason as to why they were going into the Ukraine. One Commander stated 'when this is all over Russia will be a pariah state with no friends in Europe and most of the world' Did Vlad not thing of the ramifications of HIS actions and how HIS people will soon be starving.
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Tbh I don't take a lot of notice on what a PoW says. The vast majority of us would say exactly what we'd think our captors would want to hear.

That said with the amount of gear left abandoned and with their poor fighting performance on the ground so far morale is clearly a big problem for them.
 
WeeGord said:
That’s not the point I was making, I know the Soviet Union were feared. The point I’m making is that on several threads he’s been like an enthusiastic teenager excited about watching a couple of people having a fight.

It’s thoughtless, childish and his constant ‘my Dad is bigger than your Dad’ style rubbish is disrespectful to the thousands who have seen loved ones murdered and the millions or even billions whose lives may be changed forever.
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Fair do’s.
 
Mwelolo said:
The surprise may be that this has been allowed to happen.
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I know nothing about armed forces logistics, well almost nothing, but I can transfer my knowledge. Lifetime cost clearly hasn't been factored in. Russia's strategy was to maintain a large armed forced, numerically, as it created a fear to their neighbours and global competitors.

But the country isn't rich enough to be able to maintain that well. Their defence budget is smaller than ours despite having a far bigger army, far more tanks and planes and far more citizens to pay for it.

We have a small but highly trained, highly skilled professional army, with well maintained equipment, know our capabilities. Russia's army is large but 1/3rd of it is young conscripts with no desire to be there and no knowledge of soldiering.

The other 2/3rd is clearly far to heavy on fighting troops and not heavy enough on logistics to ensure they maintain the availability of working equipment and food.

I read at the beginning of this war that the russians had 10 days to cease Kyiv otherwise their losses would be horrendous. Seems to be heading that way now. Around 12k russian troops killed according to some independent sources. That's about what they lost in 10 years in afghanistan.

With tanks, and trucks abandoned, and lack of food, the soldiers must be utterly demoralised.
 
Some of the troops being caught are 17 and 18 years old, just out of nappies. No wonder they are running and leaving equipment behind, while their so called leaders are no where to be seen.
 
BoroMart said:
I know nothing about armed forces logistics, well almost nothing, but I can transfer my knowledge. Lifetime cost clearly hasn't been factored in. Russia's strategy was to maintain a large armed forced, numerically, as it created a fear to their neighbours and global competitors.

But the country isn't rich enough to be able to maintain that well. Their defence budget is smaller than ours despite having a far bigger army, far more tanks and planes and far more citizens to pay for it.

We have a small but highly trained, highly skilled professional army, with well maintained equipment, know our capabilities. Russia's army is large but 1/3rd of it is young conscripts with no desire to be there and no knowledge of soldiering.

The other 2/3rd is clearly far to heavy on fighting troops and not heavy enough on logistics to ensure they maintain the availability of working equipment and food.

I read at the beginning of this war that the russians had 10 days to cease Kyiv otherwise their losses would be horrendous. Seems to be heading that way now. Around 12k russian troops killed according to some independent sources. That's about what they lost in 10 years in afghanistan.

With tanks, and trucks abandoned, and lack of food, the soldiers must be utterly demoralised.
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Hey don't forget the highly trained light & dark blue!!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I went through quite a few defence reviews in my 18 years, loggie in light blue.

One was called 'front line first' - and most of those who were not teeth edge knew that it would be a disaster in the making, and it nearly was when we came to deploy to Iraq & Afghanistan. Too much reliance on civilian and reserves, who did an absolute sterling job.
 
There's a story doing the rounds on Twitter that is apparently translated from Russian and claims to be an FSB agent.

It paints a picture that all is very wrong behind the scenes with Russia. The person claims nobody was told the invasion would happen (everyone expected the gathering of forces to come to nothing). The Russians weren't expecting Ukraine to fight once they did enter the country and the Russian army has performed badly. The person also reckons nobody prepared for the level of sanctions imposed on Russia. They go on to say they have until June before sanctions start crippling Russia.
 
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