A change of shape

Diego said:
That’s obviously the thing we all want and hope for but this was just an idea in case we don’t do that. Which is very possible as we all well know
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Wasn't having a go. You can play any shape you like but with poor players who have little experience in this league you'll get found out. We can go with 3 in the middle with what we have but we won't score goals.
 
TheWolfman said:
Wasn't having a go. You can play any shape you like but with poor players who have little experience in this league you'll get found out. We can go with 3 in the middle with what we have but we won't score goals.
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Think it gives us a better chance of winning that what we are currently doing.
 
BoroPhil said:
I don't think we need to over analyse this. We are making basic mistakes which regardless of shape is going to hurt us. Almost every goal at the moment is self inflicted.
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Regardless of formation we need to be better organised and disciplined defensively AS A TEAM. Looking at the second goal Latte Lath charges to close down a man in the centre circle and leaves the man he was marking all on his lonesome. Silvera tracks the man who scores but makes no effort to put him under any pressure. It's not just about defenders everyone has a part to play. It's down to the manager and coaching staff to ensure that all the players know what their role is and what is expected of them when we haven't got the ball.
 
Caesium137 said:
We are too small, soft and nice all over the pitch. Teams must love playing us, no great strength, aggression, power, set piece threat. We don't niggle and wind up, we don't put refs under any pressure to give us decisions or get opposition players booked.

We're a team of absolute fannies in the main.
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Absolutely this right now ..
It's not a case of returning to pulis type stuff...
But using better what we have .
If they don't have to think about defending Ramsey, forss, akpom and archers goal threat . .
Then we have to be more " robust " than the current set up formation wise.
I wouldn't want to centre half behind today's starting front four , with two 5ft something nice lads Infront of me
 
BoroPhil said:
I don't think we need to over analyse this. We are making basic mistakes which regardless of shape is going to hurt us. Almost every goal at the moment is self inflicted.
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I disagree entirely we are overrun in midfield it happened last season but its compounded this season losing chuba who dropped deep and retained possession well.
We should sacrifice playing a no 10 when we dont have a decent one at the club and flood the midfield with another body like Barlaser
 
Tuesday is the perfect opportunity to try something different, but we’ll no doubt see the same old, with Crooks in 10 or up top and McNair at right back. Be great if we can get a player or two in before then too, but I’m not hopeful.
 
theredrooster said:
For me it's too early to get too radical and start changing shape. Confidence (or lack of) is playing a huge part. Marginal calls going against us, mistakes, heads drop etc, it's a viscous circle.

Some hard work on the training ground on defensive shape, try and stop leaking goals and regain a bit of belief and I'm sure things will change for us (2 or 3 quality additions this week would help too though, especially someone really nasty, for some time now we've been just too nice).
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Agree, first and foremost we need to not concede and have some clean sheets and if it's 0-0 so be it, we very rarely keep a clean sheet so we are constantly needing to out score teams so as a team defensively we are really poor and where last season on the whole looking at results from league games since Carrick come in we ha e had around 7 clean sheets so that area of the pitch definitely needs to improve.
 
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