Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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My understanding is the laws restricting her movements had not at that point been brought in, which makes it pretty much open and shut.
7 police officers with fire arms
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My understanding is the laws restricting her movements had not at that point been brought in, which makes it pretty much open and shut.
Laughing
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Regardless of the law if the stats produced above are correct re infections in gyms then the law is just wrong. The government should be looking at infection vectors and closing the non essential highest infection vectors. I don't know if the numbers quoted were correct BTW.
Randy
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Those harsh lockdowns in Italy and France did wonders didn't they?
Good on the owner of the gym. Keeping people's mental health and physical health healthy too.
Don't any of you find it odd that there has been no official advice from government on how to keep a healthy immune system up and running?
bear66
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They did work well. Most of Italy wasn't hit like the worst hit city in the world, Bergamo. Rome in particular has one of the least affected populations.
They only buy time though as any second wave will have easy pickings in the least affected areas. Time to put in a working track and trace system like NZ, Taiwan, Vietnam, Japan, South Korea and Germany. We failed miserably in that respect.
1finny
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If I understand correctly Peru had a military style lockdown - and are quoted as having the worst virus impact in the world.
The WHO have also said lockdown isn’t necessary.
People are talking with ‘certainty’ when the evidence is uncertain
Lifelonfaninexile
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The figures released by the local health body appear to show less than 1% transferal rate in gyms while 39% in the Universities. Gyms closed Unis still fully populated. It is easy to see the frustrations.
Randy
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Do you know how many contacts were traced back to a hospitality venue last week using the track and trace system from 690,000+ QR code check ins?
ZERO.
Yet hospitality is getting shat on all over the country.
Lifelonfaninexile
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Agree wholeheartedly, the question could be asked why we simply do not look at where the transfer points are and close them.Do you know how many contacts were traced back to a hospitality venue last week using the track and trace system from 690,000+ QR code check ins?
ZERO.
Yet hospitality is getting shat on all over the country.
Hospitality, gyms, open air events all pose so little a problem as to be negligible.
Evidence seems to be no guide to actions.
The agenda is either baffling or something other than facts are driving it.
Zoophonic
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Well it is Mahyar Tousi. He recently tweeted to tell Marcus Rashford to shut up.
Lifelonfaninexile
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Zoo, you are entirely correct about the odious Tousi and many of the comments are reprehensible. But the descent into a police state starts with people looking away.
KingOfTheTribes
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https://uk.gofundme.com/f/save-liverpool-gyms
The fella who owns the gym in question has set up a go fund me page to help with legal costs.
Original target was £10,000. It's raised £36,000 in two days
Seems the gym goers of Liverpool don't support the lockdowns either, 2,208 of them so far.
@KingOfTheTribes so let me get this straight, according to you this man is an idiot because he's fighting to keep his business open, staff employed, people healthy and fit and to keep putting food on his table and keep a roof over his head?
Take it you've either got a cushy public sector job or you are retired?
I'm private sector
I can see where he is coming from but you can't just break the rules if you don't agree with them, that's why I think he's an idiot, as it would have cost him his livelihood with the fines to make the point. Fortunately he's got lots of other idiots to pay for it, so I withdraw the idiot comment about him. He's clued up.
What he is doing though is stoking up anti-lockdown sentiment. He's encouraging others to break lockdown rules and in turn this will see the virus continue to rise. Then we know what happens.
KingOfTheTribes
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Do you know how many contacts were traced back to a hospitality venue last week using the track and trace system from 690,000+ QR code check ins?
ZERO.
Yet hospitality is getting shat on all over the country.
I totally agree with you here - the current rules are baffling, but that does not mean that we can just go out and incur fines and break laws.
Direct your hate at the Tory voters who put this idiot in charge of our country. And maybe the Brexiteers who elected him leader of their party.
Randy
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Control.
At this point I'm starting to believe the government actually want to crash the economy and bankrupt us all as a means to not pay off any debts etc.
Lifelonfaninexile
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The world’s billionaires “did extremely well” during the coronavirus pandemic, growing their already-huge fortunes to a record high of $10.2tn (£7.8tn).
A report by Swiss bank UBS found that billionaires increased their wealth by more than a quarter (27.5%) at the height of the crisis from April to July, just as millions of people around the world lost their jobs or were struggling to get by on government schemes.
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
ianson_smoggy
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I only see 5 officers.
They're not armed response unit.
The number of them may reflect the suggested numbers of gym goers or intelligence linked to the gym or people who run/use the gym. Maybe there was a previous incident to reflect those numbers.
So many unknowns but typical social media over-reaction.
They didn't exactly say that, though did they? They said lockdowns should not be used as the "primary method of control" of the virus.
The same person who made that statement said in an article just a few days ago that lockdowns can be used but only as part of an overall strategy including hygiene measures, track and trace, isolation etc.
pierrequiroule
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I've no idea who he is, but judging by his 'mates' I'm happy for it to stay that way.
Jonny Ingbar
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Nothing to see here then it seems.
tripleheader
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He's probably got Andy Burnhams words ringing in his ears....I'm private sector
I can see where he is coming from but you can't just break the rules if you don't agree with them, that's why I think he's an idiot, as it would have cost him his livelihood with the fines to make the point. Fortunately he's got lots of other idiots to pay for it, so I withdraw the idiot comment about him. He's clued up.
What he is doing though is stoking up anti-lockdown sentiment. He's encouraging others to break lockdown rules and in turn this will see the virus continue to rise. Then we know what happens.