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Yeah, it was terrible .. nothing made sense, the characters were all over the place, the timeline had things happen in a day in one place and yet months happened elsewhere despite both events being linked, the lore was trashed, the characters were trashed, their "Big Reveal" was obvious in Episode 2, slow, boring, unrealistic ...

.. but it did look good at times ..
 
I enjoyed it.

Most of the complaints I had are relating to it not fitting the plot/timeline of the books, which it is obviously is not an identical copy of.

The actress they picked for Galadriel is perfect.

Obviously creating an issue with female dwarves by ignoring Gimli's lines from The Two Towers, but I suppose you could pretend he was joking.
That and the leaf is a big negative for me, but for most of the programme I've enjoyed it.

Definitely plenty I'd have changed if it was up to me, but I'm still really looking forward to S2.
 
Cinematically amazing but terribly written

I saw a comment that when you look at the writing credits there is very little experience between them other than one of the writers so it's amazing a 700m series was trusted to them. It's been renewed already but imagine they'll be changing the writing talent
 
My son likes both House of Dragons and Rings of Power, but thought RoP better. It’s probably the underlying depth that just comes with Tolkien compared to any othe author/world.

I enjoyed it despite being utterly appalled and baffled at some of the deviations from Tolkiens history.

Visually stunning though and I did like some of the things it enhanced from Tolkien’s history. It brought out the sundering of the Elves and men, both Numenorian and in middle earth, same with the distrust and tension with elves and dwarves. The creation of Mordor is all out but actually I quite liked that idea. My biggest gripe other than general timelines being necessarily squashed was the Finrod narrative. I just don’t see it was necessary, brought nothing that couldn’t have been brought a different way and Finrod was the noblest of the Noldor in the first age and I personally hate any changes to his story, the knob heads. Hugely important to the history of middle earth is Finrod.
 
This, together with all the other great TV shows around, we have so much to enjoy in what is a sort of golden age. I'm enjoying all of it. Sometimes silly, yes, awesome in scope and imagination, also yes. I wish I could come up with something as good as this. I'm catching up with Frozen Planet II now, also spectacular.
Next season of RoP will be filmed in UK apparently, I wonder if they'll use any nearby locations?
 
I deliberately watched it before House of Dragons with lower expectations after the Hobbit, which I hated, was so unfocused. And to be honest, really enjoying Rings of Power.

Galadriel is amazing and the whole thing is a hell of a spectacle, the storytelling is good and it’s tightly made too. I’m not familiar with the Silmarillion though so the off-source material casting and deviations in the story doesn’t affect me.

Looking at people’s criticisms, they’re quite similar to the Wheel of Time, which was an absolute dogshit ashtray.
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
I deliberately watched it before House of Dragons with lower expectations after the Hobbit, which I hated, was so unfocused. And to be honest, really enjoying Rings of Power.

Galadriel is amazing and the whole thing is a hell of a spectacle, the storytelling is good and it’s tightly made too. I’m not familiar with the Silmarillion though so the off-source material casting and deviations in the story doesn’t affect me.

Looking at people’s criticisms, they’re quite similar to the Wheel of Time, which was an absolute dogshit ashtray.
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I enjoyed Wheel of Time.

So did my son and his favourite series of books, bar none, are the Wheel Of Time.
 
I am a big fan of Tolkien and found the changes to Tolkien lore pretty jarring. I can usually accept this in film/TV, early GOT for example and even the Jackson LOTR films did this a fair bit.

But none of the changes they made enhanced the storyline bar the Elrond-Durin friendship. They waited until the last episode to introduce the most interesting part of the story (not the reveal of Sauron) and they spent 3 episodes on the entirely created fictional people of the Southlands, who were not only pointless but dull. Don't get me started on the hobbits/stranger section.

It would have got away with changes and timeline crunching if it had been any good. The writers have given a few interviews where they come across as self indulgent idiots.

Sadly, despite all this, I still enjoyed it enough to watch season 2. Could do with Boro improving to fill that gap!
 
Subbuteo_171 said:
Well….what can I say.

Ever since the series was announced I‘ve been looking forward to this. The Peter Jackson films were utterly superb, crammed full of excellent performances, cinematography and characters to connect with.

Series 1….what a load of absolute tosh. Characters are poor, acting is 3rd year primary level and bar a couple of characters the series is awash with those I couldn’t care less about. The pace is glacial, it’s all disconnected, there’s little entertainment value and if 95% of the characters simply disappeared then you’d forget they’d even appeared; in short it’s the tv equivalent of Tony Pulis’ time here - bigged up yet flattered to deceive, boring as hell, looking at your watch thinking this must be over soon/something exciting must happen soon, when the final whistle blows it’s a relief, disappointing and a massive let down.

On the plus side it looks amazing, and surely the next series has to be better. Overall a huge disappointment, 4/10 - and it’s only that because of the NZ landscape.
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The next series isn't been filmed in NZ I believe.
 
A big part of it's problem is the deal with the licensing with Tolkien's estate, there is so much they can't actually touch storyline wise.

It was thought before that they had bought rights to silmarilion but the Tolkien estate still hold those. And that's primarily the period / story that RoP is trying to tell but they can only use references to lord or the rings, the hobbit, the appendices or characters that don't appear exclusively in silmarillion.

The storyline is just really, really poor with a lot of questionable decisions made & inconsistencies and the whole Sauron thing handled really badly
 
I tried watching it, got through Episode 1, not a patch on the Peter Jackson movies, child like dialogue, terrible casting, crap acting and just plain dull.

House of the Dragon on the other hand - nailed it.
 
Loaded it up last night anticipating another episode, none, just the very very mediocre 8 that already aired.

Just underwhelming, far too slow with bloated dialogue.. esp by the elves, their roles have been ruined by pompous Cholmondley Warner meets Crossroads script, acting & delivery.. they sound & look ridiculous..

Kids can watch it, so comparing to HoD is not a fair comparison, it's worse than the Hobbit trilogy & the LoTR trilogy still by far the best.

4/10 & second series must do better, however just imagine if this is the high point?? 😯
 
Battled my way through RoP and have ended up wanting Sauron to win just to destroy everyone of the simpering underwritten undercooked and badly acted elves/dwarves and unnecessary storyline in it.
 
House has remembered what made Game of Thrones so bloody good..........bow to David Tennant , a true great of our times
 
I'm preferring Rings of Power to House of Dragon, so far. I thought HoD was not a patch on Game of Thrones, making similar mistakes to what were made in the final season of GoT. Primarily awful pacing, which leads to lots of characters who seem redundant or simply have no idea who they are.

I think it will improve, and I know it's the story of one family, but it really lacks the depth of GoT with many different factions from different areas, with different goals. It's just not got the magic and mystery of the original.

At least with RoP, I can kind of separate it a bit from LOTR, because it's the first TV series format of it. And I would agree, it looks better than HoD. They've used 'Unreal Engine' (like a big digital screen in a studio, the new green screen if you like) in both. But it feels like they've done it too much in HoD. It takes me out of the story constantly, I can just see that it's not real. Whereas GoT felt so big and epic in the way it was shot, and always felt real.
 
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