3 month gap between AZ jabs given thumbs up by report in Lancet

[HolgateCorner]

Isn't everything in life a gamble?

Just admit that they did well. It won't hurt you.

Isn't everything in life a gamble?

Just admit that they did well. It won't hurt you.

see my other post, I don’t think they have done either well or badly on this gamble, but I do believe we are allowed a government to do some things correctly without shouting about it.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

The 67% reduction in transmission is brilliant news isn't it?

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

see my other post, I don’t think they have done either well or badly on this gamble, but I do believe we are allowed a government to do some things correctly without shouting about it.

They're so desperate due to their countless failures, and by the way, they haven't developed the vaccine.

 

[Chris_Boro]

The best data will come when people are fully vaccinated and deaths are at a minimum. The acid test will be when we reach the bottleneck of vaccinating those who need their first jab and those at 12 weeks.

I still believe the strategy is a huge risk but understand the desperation the government now has due to their monumental failure in managing this crisis.

I hope this works so we can get to holding this government to account for their incompetence and cronyism.

 

[HolgateCorner]

The best data will come when people are fully vaccinated and deaths are at a minimum. The acid test will be when we reach the bottleneck of vaccinating those who need their first jab and those at 12 weeks.

I still believe the strategy is a huge risk but understand the desperation the government now has due to their monumental failure in managing this crisis.

I hope this works so we can get to holding this government to account for their incompetence and cronyism.

I hope it works, it could save a lot of lives, but I can’t be doing with this particular Tory government and their media cohorts crowing about it.

 

[ChrisTheRed]

Much like you choose to ignore most of what I say ☺

 

[Spraggons Den]

Funny isn't it how some people just aren't happy unless they are slagging the Tory government off.

 

[gravy173]

The best data will come when people are fully vaccinated and deaths are at a minimum. The acid test will be when we reach the bottleneck of vaccinating those who need their first jab and those at 12 weeks.

I still believe the strategy is a huge risk but understand the desperation the government now has due to their monumental failure in managing this crisis.

I hope this works so we can get to holding this government to account for their incompetence and cronyism.

At this rate the 9 key groups will have pretty much been vaccinated before the 12 weeks comes around so they can all get their second jabs before starting on the u50s

Problem solved

 

[Jedi boro]

I have no time for the Tories or this regime at all but even I can agree that the vaccine roll out has been fantastic my uncle in billingham was given his first jab last week and my folks are getting it this week in Stockton so I know that the roll out has worked.

it really would be churlish not to recognise that.

 

[Laughing]

Funny isn't it how some people just aren't happy unless they are slagging the Tory government off.

Well the government are directly responsible for 10's of thousands of death, so perhaps, and I am just thinking out loud, they deserve all the criticism they get.

 

[Chris_Boro]

At this rate the 9 key groups will have pretty much been vaccinated before the 12 weeks comes around so they can all get their second jabs before starting on the u50s

Problem solved

As someone classed as clinically extremely vulnerable I hope that is the case. Still waiting though.

 

[sherlock]

This isn't really news.

The Oxford jab was always supposed to be 12 weeks apart, Oxford/Astra Zeneca supported that from the beginning.

It's the Pfizer one that's the worry. Pfizer don't support the 12 week gap, it should be 3 weeks, and they make no claim as to efficacy with a 12 week gap between doses.

 

[Londons_Moggie]

This isn't really news.

The Oxford jab was always supposed to be 12 weeks apart, Oxford/Astra Zeneca supported that from the beginning.

It's the Pfizer one that's the worry. Pfizer don't support the 12 week gap, it should be 3 weeks, and they make no claim as to efficacy with a 12 week gap between doses.

No 5hit Sherlock

 

[sherlock]

No 5hit Sherlock

Although the bit about reducing transmission is new I think as that wasn't previously known

 

[HolgateCorner]

You carry on wallowing in misery, the rest of us will carry on being happy at some good new.

Thanks for that comment Bill

 

[thewanderer]

People were complaining about the strategy using the Pfizer vaccination Cooper. It's effacacy is 33% after one jab. Is that enough, who knows.

Not this rubbish again. I'm beginning to think you have some kind of agenda with this.

 

[SmallTown]

Not this rubbish again. I'm beginning to think you have some kind of agenda with this.

What's rubbish about what he said? It's correct isn't it?

Just for clarity because we STILL don't seem to be getting this. The AZ was always OK to be administered 12 weeks apart the Pfizer one wasn't. If its not effective after 12 weeks then the government have taken a massive gamble with people's health and are negligent

 

[HolgateCorner]

What's rubbish about what he said? It's correct isn't it?

Just for clarity because we STILL don't seem to be getting this. The AZ was always OK to be administered 12 weeks apart the Pfizer one wasn't. If its not effective after 12 weeks then the government have taken a massive gamble with people's health and are negligent

I’m surprised at the number of posters on here who are just blindly following the media in saying what a fantastic job the government are doing with the vaccine.
They aren’t, they are just doing their job via the NHS, they’ve taken a few gambles with the first and second doses which may or may not pay off.
This isn’t being miserable about it, it’s just the way it is, there is a long long way to go yet before anything is a great success.

 

[Laughing]

Not this rubbish again. I'm beginning to think you have some kind of agenda with this.

No wanderer just facts, the same facts that are available to you, should you wish to look. If you are going to attack the poster, at least back it up with a study that refutes what the israelis have found in the real world. That would be a start to a debate.

Let me help you a bit. During real world vaccinations in Israel, they found that after 1 Pfizer jab, at 14 days the efficacy was 33%. They then retested at 17 days and the efficacy was still 33%. There was not the anticipated rise in efficacy beyond 14 days. That is an opinion backed up with evidence.

Your turn?

Oh and my agenda is only truth.

 

[Liamo]

Experimental though isn’t it?

In one sense, not really. The O-AZ vaccine trials included a relatively large subset that received their second dose 12 weeks (or even more) after the first.

So there's good clinical data for it.