1000 cases a day for all of June

dooderooni said:
I'll ask the question here, ignoring any debate around the pro's/con's of face coverings, would making them mandatory in enclosed spaces (shops, offices, even schools) not have a benefit in trying to balance the economic and health issues we are facing?
I work in a 100% masked environment and that coupled with social distancing has meant we have stayed productive during the lockdown (how productive will be indicated by the number of smiley boxes you've acquired at home).
The confidence, be it false or otherwise that wearing a mask brings has to have a positive impact and for a lot of people it might actually give them enough confidence to become an active part of the high street economy.
We have to learn to live with and around this virus and so I'd say that for a government that likes to use psychometric and behavioural data, face coverings would be beneficial from that standpoint and depending on which research you choose to believe, it won't be particularly detrimental from a health standpoint in the grand scheme of things.
If you want to see what raw-dogging reopening looks like then the horror show across the pond might persuade you to get behind the wearing of face coverings as one small part of getting back to something like normal.
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Really is a conflict isn’t it.
I can see your point that mandatory face masks could breed lots of confidence.
I’m sure you recognise the down side too - complacency.
Tricky indeed
 
1finny said:
Really is a conflict isn’t it.
I can see your point that mandatory face masks could breed lots of confidence.
I’m sure you recognise the down side too - complacency.
Tricky indeed
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Complacency, negative health consequences, negative mental consequences for lots of people who get acne as a result.

I'm pretty sure there's plenty of confidence in returning to the high street already given the images we've all seen the past few days.

The economic torture is going to be a spiralling effect of certain industries not being able to function, not because Joe Pub doesn't want to go back to his local restaurant.

We were already heading towards a recession the west's actions have just exacerbated that reaction ten fold.

The other problem with hoping for a 'better' long term system is that it ignores all the death and suffering being caused by the decisions. Famine was highlighted months ago is now taking grip, economic consequence will come as soon as furlough gets tighter.
 
1finny said:
Really is a conflict isn’t it.
I can see your point that mandatory face masks could breed lots of confidence.
I’m sure you recognise the down side too - complacency.
Tricky indeed
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That's part of the delicate balancing act. Pragmatism coupled with clear instruction seems more sensible than muddled messaging and reliance on commonsense right now because it would appear that there is a lack of commonsense or the willingness to be sensible in a lot of the population. I'd also argue that there is a need to ram home the message better, maybe via an SSN like ticker being displayed during regular programming for example?
 
Health versus the economy ? What an impossibly difficult problem to be faced with.
Put measures in place to ensure the best health outcome and it may cause an economic collapse which would result in mass unemployment which has serious health implications and other consequences. Favour the economy and infections may increase and possibly lead to a second wave, perhaps even worse than the the initial phase.
Glad I'm not a politician, damned if you do and damned if you don't.
On balance I think we need to open the economy and learn to operate within the constraints of the virus, sadly that may not be an option due to the selfish actions of a substantial minority of people.

PS.
Please don't wear gloves for your protection as if you do touch some contamination from that moment on until you take them off you may possibly contaminate anything that you touch. The key is to wash your hands frequently and thoroughly.
 
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