“Void between the Premier League and the Championship is growing bigger”.

Abel Tasman

Abel Tasman

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Telling if not obvious comment from Goldbridge on his watchalong video. Interesting watch to see a neutral’s view of how poorly we played. And a funny reaction to Rogers goal. I know he’s marmite but I like him.

 
Hes a bit of tvvat but I did laugh at the Kenny Rogers song. Also you can't help have empathy with his his exasperation at our defending.
 
Look at the money gap -

Chelsea's revenue must be over £600m? a year and ours £22m?

I think Chelsea were sold for around £3500m by Abramovitch - what are we worth £75m?

The money gap is getting bigger every year.
 
Football, in the premier league especially is losing its unpredictability factor. Money is ruining the game.

How many times do you look at the scores to see Man City have won 4,5,6 - 0. Even during the Fergie, United era can I remember them winning by such score lines on a consistent basis.

There was many a times we beat the top teams during our premier league stints. Now it would be a case of going to City and trying to keep the score to less than 4.

You want to play in the top leagues and each year I want us promoted, but how much fun would it seriously be? Look at Sheffield United and Burnley this season.
 
The USA must be the biggest capitalist society on the planet. Money, making money, making more money than you can spend in your lifetime is king.

But one thing they won't tolerate is uncompetitive sporting competitions - financially. Uncompetitive competition damages the "brand". And that hits the finances - what they care about more than anything. So (certainly with the NFL) everything is divvied up, shared and the more competitive the league, the more the fans are happy and spend their hard earned $$$$ on the "brand".

But the PL missed the boat. Rewarded the good teams, more money the higher you finish. More money the more you are on Sky. The exposure to the global audience means foreign companies falling over themselves to sponsor, invest, own a piece of the PL. Millions turned into billions, the likes of Boro got left behind. Scrabbling for the crumbs selling players, being on Sky every few months.

We are miles off being competitive in the PL, and even if we were to be promoted the prospect of being financially secure but getting spanked week in week out and repeating our last PL adventure is not something I will be particularly looking forward to.

Financially, football is fooked for all but 6-10 clubs in the country. The sporting competition sold out to a money making machine a long time ago. Question is how long and how far can this model go? Keep expecting the bubble to burst.....but then another mega Sky/foreign TV deal is announced and everything starts to get dafter, not better.

Might be in a minority, and I fully understand the need to get promoted from a financial point of view, but everything that goes with the PL......🤮🤮🤮
 
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'Void between the Premier League and the Championship is growing bigger'​

Unfortunately he's right.

It's looking very likely that the 3 promoted teams from last season are going to come back down, and that includes them having an advantage with Everton being hit with a huge points deduction.

And also, the 3 relegated teams from PL last season are going to finish in the top 4 (with it likely that all 3 will finish in top 3 and gain promotion).

The void has never ever been so vast between the top flight and the division below.

And it looks like it's only going to get larger, too.
 
It really is. I know I've been banging on about parachute payments all season but they make a massive difference. We're effectively moving towards a "three-tier" approach in the EPL/Championship in my opinion:

1. Established EPL teams (usually the richest ones, occasionally someone who nails their strategy e.g. Brighton)
2. Teams who will bounce between EPL and Championship (parachute payments being the main factor)
3. The rest of the Championship.

We're currently trying to make the leap from 3 to 2, which would give us the financial security needed to potentially mount a challenge to make it 1 in the long term. If that makes any sense? haha

Effectively, those clubs in the Championship without PP need to get almost everything out season in/season out to challenge.

It's why our complete mismanagement of PP last time we came down is still a massive source of frustration but also why our performances over the last season or so have been so impressive.
 
Was evident even last season when Burnley were flying and walking the Championship only to go and get battered 6-0 by Man City in the cup.
 
Robbieboro said:
How many times do you look at the scores to see Man City have won 4,5,6 - 0. Even during the Fergie, United era can I remember them winning by such score lines on a consistent basis.
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To be fair, it's only happened twice this season in the Premier League.
 
h_m_boro said:
The USA must be the biggest capitalist society on the planet. Money, making money, making more money than you can spend in your lifetime is king.

But one thing they won't tolerate is uncompetitive sporting competitions - financially. Uncompetitive competition damages the "brand". And that hits the finances - what they care about more than anything. So (certainly with the NFL) everything is divvied up, shared and the more competitive the league, the more the fans are happy and spend their hard earned $$$$ on the "brand".

But the PL missed the boat. Rewarded the good teams, more money the higher you finish. More money the more you are on Sky. The exposure to the global audience means foreign companies falling over themselves to sponsor, invest, own a piece of the PL. Millions turned into billions, the likes of Boro got left behind. Scrabbling for the crumbs selling players, being on Sky every few months.

We are miles off being competitive in the PL, and even if we were to be promoted the prospect of being financially secure but getting spanked week in week out and repeating our last PL adventure is not something I will be particularly looking forward to.

Financially, football is fooked for all but 6-10 clubs in the country. The sporting competition sold out to a money making machine a long time ago. Question is how long and how far can this model go? Keep expecting the bubble to burst.....but then another mega Sky/foreign TV deal is announced and everything starts to get dafter, not better.

Might be in a minority, and I fully understand the need to get promoted from a financial point of view, but everything that goes with the PL......🤮🤮🤮
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American sports seem socialist but really they are the ultimate capitalist system. They're set up so the owners never over-spend and they are guaranteed profits. A maximum spend, well below revenue, anything above that into the owners pockets and there are restrictions on owners so businesses or fan groups etc aren't allowed to own a club (basically you have to be a billionaire). They also don't own the stadium, they have the city they are based in spend local tax payers money to build them a stadium or they will move the franchise to another location that will build them a stadium. Most of the stadiums are built for a private company that the NFL team pays rent to because a stadium somewhere like New York will be able to host all sorts of events and make a fortune but in a less wealthy/touristy place it is a way to keep the team in the city. The private company is often owned by the NFL team's owner in those fancier cities so they keep all the profits themselves.

Nothing about American Sports is there to increase competition. It's there to maximise revenue.
 
Nano said:
American sports seem socialist but really they are the ultimate capitalist system. They're set up so the owners never over-spend and they are guaranteed profits. A maximum spend, well below revenue, anything above that into the owners pockets and there are restrictions on owners so businesses or fan groups etc aren't allowed to own a club (basically you have to be a billionaire). They also don't own the stadium, they have the city they are based in spend local tax payers money to build them a stadium or they will move the franchise to another location that will build them a stadium. Most of the stadiums are built for a private company that the NFL team pays rent to because a stadium somewhere like New York will be able to host all sorts of events and make a fortune but in a less wealthy/touristy place it is a way to keep the team in the city. The private company is often owned by the NFL team's owner in those fancier cities so they keep all the profits themselves.

Nothing about American Sports is there to increase competition. It's there to maximise revenue.
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Don't get me wrong - 32 billionaires are not going to happily sit and have their teams making a few $$$. They are there to fleece the fans for every $ they can get. $200+ cheap seat. $20 beer, $10 hot dog. The NFL is not a cheap supporters experience.

But when fans start "giving up", stadium revenue slumps, TV viewing figures are down......not good for the cartel. Then as you say, franchise ups sticks and moves to a "better" city.

So the draft and salary cap does it's best to stop one team domination and keep competition healthy - something which the PL actually goes out of its way to discourage. That's my point. Not the 32 billionaires getting mega rich off the back of the sport 👍
 
It's becoming harder and harder for teams to survive in the Prem now, in the same way it's getting harder and harder for the 21 other teams in the championship to compete and go up, the spend difference is absolutely crazy.
Their midfield was worth £200million alone and I don't think we've spent £200million in our existence and that's even with being an ex prem side!
 
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