£19 for a U12 match day ticket

I'm surprised we have someone trying to justify a kids ticket price or specifically their parents paying £19 for the pleasure of watching the Boro. At the end of the day, if we want the club to have a decent following in the future then we need to get the kids of our area hooked & charging a fortune won't do it.
 
We've renewed our two adult STs, at £510 each, but reading this message board has highlighted the extortionate cost of taking children as young as 6 to the games. I was a bit blasé regarding RFs impending walkout at 30 minutes, but I now see the relevance of questioning the costs imposed by the club on youngsters to watch the game. I agree with RF and hope their demonstration is recognised by those concerned.

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£19 for a kids cinema ticket and snacks? Which cinema are you going to?

Here’s the showcase cinema prices for this Saturday at 3pm

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My local Vue is £4.99. No adult or children's prices. Everyone pays the same. Full family of 4 is £19.96 including booking fee. The £19 at the Riverside is really £20.50. Family of 4 in the cheapest seat in the stadium is £108.

They even have the cheek on the website to say £19, £0 Fees and then add on fees at the end for postage or print at home.

That's another thing that needs questioning. Why do I have to pay a postage/print at home fee for each ticket and not each booking? I thought businesses were required to include any mandatory/unavoidable fees should be included in the face value price. I presume it is because you can pay face value on the day at the ticket office but the online price is different to the in person price and should be stated and so the online cost should include those fees as this guidance below states:

 
Didn’t you label anyone opposed to VAR as being “without any real understanding of systems of governance, workable rules, referee comprehension etc”? Or was that someone else.
possible but that isn't dumb, that's just inexperienced in defining and enforcing systems of governance which is a very complex task, but most people won't realise that because they don't do it for a living. It's the opposite of a silly ad hominem attack like "you're dumb"
 
possible but that isn't dumb, that's just inexperienced in defining and enforcing systems of governance which is a very complex task, but most people won't realise that because they don't do it for a living. It's the opposite of a silly ad hominem attack like "you're dumb"
If you read it again you will see that I didn't call you dumb. I said your argument was dumb and i stand by that. You are arguing that Boro's prices are justifiably high because alternative leisure activities are also high but you completely mis-stated the price of those alternative activities and then when it was pointed out how wrong you were you did it again with other equally dumb examples.

You aren't dumb. Your position on this topic is.
 
OK, so I've over-egged the cost of a cinema trip as an example, which is circa 10-12 quid with sweets and drinks. 19 quid is expensive for a 5 year old, but to entertain a 12 year old once a fortnight isn't obscene, just on the higher end. I'm sure 10 pin, an afternoon at a VR place, or many other activities are fairly ball park. Yes a ST at Flamingo Land is cheap, but they know you are there all day and therefore they'll sting you with food, drink and micro-transactions.

I get that plenty of people think it's extortionate, there are certainly cheaper ways to spend 2 hours, but football by its nature is extortionate. I'm sure and hope this all blows over and we can get back to watching the Boro building for a proper promotion push
 
OK, so I've over-egged the cost of a cinema trip as an example, which is circa 10-12 quid with sweets and drinks. 19 quid is expensive for a 5 year old, but to entertain a 12 year old once a fortnight isn't obscene, just on the higher end. I'm sure 10 pin, an afternoon at a VR place, or many other activities are fairly ball park. Yes a ST at Flamingo Land is cheap, but they know you are there all day and therefore they'll sting you with food, drink and micro-transactions.

I get that plenty of people think it's extortionate, there are certainly cheaper ways to spend 2 hours, but football by its nature is extortionate. I'm sure and hope this all blows over and we can get back to watching the Boro building for a proper promotion push
The £19 (without the stupid fee) is expensive for both as it's the parents that are paying it though, it's not like once a kid hits 12 they are out earning to help contribute & please don't come back at me to say he should have a paper round or whatever. Surely, as a fan, you want the price of a match to be competitive so the child would rather be coming to the game than going bowling. Which is around £6 anyway for an under 16.
 
Irony siren is deafening.
Ah i let you off the block list and you lasted 5 mins. I’ve already explained the difference between my comments about creating complex systems of governance, you refuse to comprehend that, so off you pop
 
its not a fishing trip.

I just find it a bit insane that a couple of months after Gibson wrote off 107m owed to him he is now getting slated. I'm sure he didn't want to raise the prices, but we've had massive inflation over the last year
The thread is relating to kids tickets, why do they need to be among the most expensive in the country?
 
The thread is relating to kids tickets, why do they need to be among the most expensive in the country?
They probably could be less but to keep the same budget it has to go up somewhere else, such as on adult tickets, effectively further subsidising kids further
 
They probably could be less but to keep the same budget it has to go up somewhere else, such as on adult tickets, effectively further subsidising kids further
No it doesnt, other clubs dont do it, clubs charging less than us for adults, and as stated theres probably not that many actual kids walk ups, factor in extra tickets sold if they were more reasonable, leading to more mech sold, money spent on the concourse, a programme etc and hopefully a full psying customer in years to come
 
They probably could be less but to keep the same budget it has to go up somewhere else, such as on adult tickets, effectively further subsidising kids further

No it actually doesn't.
There's a dozen possible ways to increase turn over / maximize profit.
 
They probably could be less but to keep the same budget it has to go up somewhere else, such as on adult tickets, effectively further subsidising kids further
A) Adults don't subsidise kids. We've already covered that. Subsidisation would mean adults are covering the cost of a child attending the stadium. They are not doing that. Rob has already said the cost of running the stadium equates to circa £15 per attending fan. Children are paying £19 plus additional spends. Therefore covering their cost plus adding £4 to the pot. They could be reduced to £15 which is probably still too expensive and be cost neutral.

B) The quantity of walk up children in the stadium must be a very small percentage of the total attendance. I would estimate between 500-1000 per league match. Let's just say we reduced Kid's tickets to £10.

23 matches x £9 x 1000 children per match.

It would cost the club £207k per season. Or less than £4k/week. I would be happy to reduce our player wage budget by £4k/week if it means giving more children accessibility to the match personally and securing a future fanbase. It's a drop in the ocean.

Of course this is assuming that quantity of children ticket sales remained the same and didn't increase. Cheaper tickets would surely lead to some increase in sales so some of that would be offset.
 
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They probably could be less but to keep the same budget it has to go up somewhere else, such as on adult tickets, effectively further subsidising kids further
Sell Hoppe. Job done ✔ . At the end of the day BoroMart you have your opinions and I respect that. You clearly have a similar mindset to Gibson. It seems to be one that only thinks about the here and now though. This football club will be still going long after Steve Gibson has gone. It's vitally important you get kids on board to maintain a good solid fanbase in years to come. Look at Sunderland as a prime example, cracking attendances but is there any surprise as their season tickets have been excellent value over a long period of time, particularly for kids.

At the end of last season I priced up a season card for myself and my 2 kids (both under 12). I looked at the SW upper which is where they like to sit. It was over £1000. Out of curiosity I went on the Sunderland site. Selected their SW upper. The cost was HALF what we were charging for the 3 of us. My mind was made up right there, just go to the odd game as a walk up and pay through the nose. If Boro were charging similar prices to Sunderland (and most other clubs in this league) then I would get a Season card in a heartbeat, I firmly believe many others would too. Boro should be trying everything in their power to fill every seat in that stadium. Sadly, it never seems to have been a priority. The 'new customer' prices just put potential new customers off in an instant. I find the whole thing baffling I really do.
 
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Sell Hoppe. Job done ✔ . At the end of the day BoroMart you have your opinions and I respect that. You clearly have a similar mindset to Gibson. It seems to be one that only thinks about the here and now though. This football club will be still going long after Steve Gibson has gone. It's vitally important you get kids on board to maintain a good solid fanbase in years to come. Look at Sunderland as a prime example, cracking attendances but is there any surprise as their season tickets have been excellent value over a long period of time, particularly for kids.

At the end of last season I priced up a season card for myself and my 2 kids (both under 12). I looked at the SW upper which is where they like to sit. It was over £1000. Out of curiosity I went on the Sunderland site. Selected their SW upper. The cost was HALF what we were charging for the 3 of us. My mind was made up right there, just go to the odd game as a walk up and pay through the nose. If Boro we're charging similar prices to Sunderland (and most other clubs in this league) then I would get a Season card in a heartbeat, I firmly believe many others would too. Boro should be trying everything in their power to fill every seat in that stadium. Sadly, it never seems to have been a priority. The 'new customer' prices just put potential new customers off in an instant. I find the whole thing baffling I really do.
It’s not just about the here and now, the only way we will generate long term support is through a sustained run the prem and that will make kids want to support us.

I’m not saying the prices aren’t high, they obviously are, but there are extenuating circumstances. I think gibson will see this as the big opportunity next year because ffp aligns and to keep Carrick we will have to support him. We’ve done it in
The past with karanka and mcclaren and Robson. When we get the right guy, the purse strings are released. But Gibsons is rightly ffp aware and averse to the risk of it
 
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