QT from Liverpool last night

Cheers for your post Clay and thoughts

I don't think the Sun is that popular on Teesside and neither are Central Governments but the area was a big Leave area.

Based on your comments possibly people in Liverpool were more aware of their EU funding and possibly Liverpool has more younger professional people than say Teesside. (younger professionals to me we very much Remain voters). Teesside has lost its major manufacturing employers while Lierpool has hung onto Vauxhall and Ford, so there is possibly a bigger desire for change on Teesside.

Jedi - I do agree that Corbyn has not been a big fan of the EU, a bit like me he saw it as a bit of rich man's club that looked after its own and was more about protecting the status quo than promoting equality. However this definitly not the policy of the Labour Party and Party is much bigger than JP.
 
Redwurzel said:
There are some children of Thatcher or a touch of those born in the late 1960s, but its not dominant, its often your general up bringing, personality and social background that forms your outlook at life, not the age to which you were born - in my humble opinion.
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In terms of age I too am a "Boomer" so I feel qualified to use the label!

Too many people of my age merrily repeated the lies of Farage and the Faux-WW2 nonsense "Blitz Spirit", "Never in the field..." etc. Sadly the real people who fought in WW2 are no longer with us, THEY really understood our common ground with Europeans and the benefits of peaceful co-existence. My dumb-fkker chums born (like me) in the fifties or sixties brought up on Commando comics and embracing up the rhetoric of division. They have let down the country they purport to love for the lies of hateful chancer wrapped in a flag.

Depressing doesn't come close.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
I'd be willing to put money on The Sun being the best selling paper on Teesside, with The Mail not far behind.

No facts on that, but I'd be very surprised if I was wrong.
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I suspect something similar. The Sun will be ashamedly popular in most areas of Teesside.

When I was younger I worked in the civil service. Part of the organisation was responsible for bidding for EU funding. I saw first hand how much money was awarded to Teesside for various reasons. It staggered me how normal people in our region were effectively brain washed by UKIP propaganda.
 
Jedi boro said:
No it wasn’t Corbyn was a leave supporter and has been a very open critic of the eu and all supra national organisations.

look up lexit as he only came over reluctantly at the end and then it was largely a token gesture.
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Jedi boro said:
It was largely tied up in his hatred of nato.

From the independent


Jeremy Corbyn warned about the threat of "a European empire" and said the EUwas creating "a military Frankenstein", a video has revealed.

In a tirade against a key EU treaty in 2009, the now Labour leader urged people in Ireland to vote against moves towards further European integration and criticised the influence of the Natomilitary alliance.
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What a load of rubbish. Funny how Corbyn always cops the blame despite doing more remain campaign events than any other politician, and not Cameron, Osbourne, May et al. Or Alan Johnson who was put in charge of the Labour Remain campaign! Where was he?!
 
SuperStu said:
What a load of rubbish. Funny how Corbyn always cops the blame despite doing more remain campaign events than any other politician, and not Cameron, Osbourne, May et al. Or Alan Johnson who was put in charge of the Labour Remain campaign! Where was he?!
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How is it rubbish the man himself has admitted it.

He was against the eu.
 
JM14 said:
So a few thousand paying for tickets cant voice an opinion on the thousands living in poverty in their city plus millions in the rest of the UK?

Might surprise you that you dont have to be in poverty yourself to express anger at conditions millions in the UK are living in
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Spot on.
You dont have to live in the gutter to understand how it feels to be homeless.
 
clay said:
I'm a scouser. I support Boro because my Dad's from Teesside, but I'm still scouse through and through.

It amazes me to hear Boro fans slag off scousers, because the two communities are so alike. Rich history, vibrant culture, coastal communities that have always look out across the world rather than inward, passionate local pride, ripped apart by the death of traditional industries, dragged themselves back up, constantly the butt of outdated bigotted jokes from the rest of the country...

I guess it just shows how powerful the divide & conquer approach from Thatcher, Murdoch, Dacre, etc has been, that even people who claim to despise them will still parrot their words.
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I lived in Newton Le willows for about 5 years and worked in the port of liverpool building. I found advisers to be much like teessiders. Self depricating, sense of humour and full of pride in the area they come from.

There were some dicks, but then boro have those too.

I have found, and my Kent wife agrees the further north you go the friendlier folks get.
 
Jedi boro said:
Yes I agree

https://twitter.com/x/status/1171229779996987392
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Have you even watched the video you're linking? What does he say in it that has anything to do with our referendum 7 years later? The Irish referendum was on ratifying the Lisbon treaty, not an in/out question.

www.theguardian.com

Jeremy Corbyn: Labour will campaign for UK to stay in the EU

Labour leader ends speculation over which way party will go, confirming a pro-Europe campaign no matter the outcome of Cameron’s renegotiation
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Laughing said:
I lived in Newton Le willows for about 5 years and worked in the port of liverpool building. I found advisers to be much like teessiders. Self depricating, sense of humour and full of pride in the area they come from.

There were some dicks, but then boro have those too.

I have found, and my Kent wife agrees the further north you go the friendlier folks get.
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When I first went to the Boro as a skinny teenager, the Boro accent seemed to have many vowel sounds and phrases, which appear close to the scouse accent.
My mates suggest it goes back to the rich mix of immigrants who emigrated to Boro in the Ironopolis years - California / Teessville / Slaggy Island.....particularly Irish Catholics and people from areas with high unemployment....like Liverpool. Many of the navvies who built the regions railway infrastructure were from Eire and settled with families in the area.
Teesside has a cultural bubble all of its own.
Im not from Teesside but its been "home" in my heart since about 1978....(y)

ps: you know you`ve "graduated" when you can tell the difference between a Redcar accent and one from Wolviston....;)
 
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When I first went to the Boro as a skinny teenager, the Boro accent seemed to have many vowel sounds and phrases, which appear close to the scouse accent.
My mates suggest it goes back to the rich mix of immigrants who emigrated to Boro in the Ironopolis years - California / Teessville / Slaggy Island.....particularly Irish Catholics and people from areas with high unemployment....like Liverpool. Many of the navvies who built the regions railway infrastructure were from Eire and settled with families in the area.
Teesside has a cultural bubble all of its own.
Im not from Teesside but its been "home" in my heart since about 1978....(y)

ps: you know you`ve "graduated" when you can tell the difference between a Redcar accent and one from Wolviston....;)
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Out of pure nosiness, where are you from if you don't mind me asking?
 
My wife
r00fie1 said:
When I first went to the Boro as a skinny teenager, the Boro accent seemed to have many vowel sounds and phrases, which appear close to the scouse accent.
My mates suggest it goes back to the rich mix of immigrants who emigrated to Boro in the Ironopolis years - California / Teessville / Slaggy Island.....particularly Irish Catholics and people from areas with high unemployment....like Liverpool. Many of the navvies who built the regions railway infrastructure were from Eire and settled with families in the area.
Teesside has a cultural bubble all of its own.
Im not from Teesside but its been "home" in my heart since about 1978....(y)

ps: you know you`ve "graduated" when you can tell the difference between a Redcar accent and one from Wolviston....;)
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My wife, who is married to a tessider, can't tell my accent from a geordie accent. She says she can now.... Hmmm.

An interesting aside, everyone knows she is from Kent. We hear people whispering Kent, Kent, Kent when she walks past 😁
 
Personally i love Liverpool (the city) lots of history and things to do, it’s a great night out too, and I’ve found most of the scousers I’ve met to be an amiable bunch - we’ve got far more in common with them than them there southerners
 
Ref Corbyn - I was going on information from earlier years not in 2016 when he was leader of the Labour. It has been a MP since 1983. There was alot of media talk that he was not the most enthusiastic supporter of the EU/EEC and some of his own party said he did not campaign hard enough for Remain.

I am sure Boys in the 1960s were reading "Commando" in places like Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool but those areas voted differently in 2016. In appears to me there are different demographics (for me linked in part to economic opportunities or lack of them) in those areas to Teesside that made a difference. Basically in prospering areas people tended to voted Remain, certainly in England and Wales.
 
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