F*CK VAR

With the really tight decisions - Thst was tight today

How do they know the exact point that the ball leaves the passing players foot? To me they just guess?

It's when the "ball is played" not when it leaves the foot.

"The first point of contact of the ‘play’ or ‘touch’ of the ball should be used" - IFAB
 
They don't need to.
Why?

Surely when the ball is passed is the key moment, I accept when it is a clear decision there is no need for a margin of error but when it is really close you need to know exactly when the ball leaves the passers foot
 
Why?

Surely when the ball is passed is the key moment, I accept when it is a clear decision there is no need for a margin of error but when it is really close you need to know exactly when the ball leaves the passers foot

Because that's not the law.
 
Why?

Surely when the ball is passed is the key moment, I accept when it is a clear decision there is no need for a margin of error but when it is really close you need to know exactly when the ball leaves the passers foot
Oh sorry. I definitely typed two sentences.

The second one was meant to say "it's when the ball is first touched by the passing player".

The technology aspect is high frame-rates and one of those little knobs that move forwards and backwards one frame-at-a-time.
 
For a start they need to change the offside rule back to torso not 'a big toe' and then it will be quicker to process hopefully. I detest it and it's another reason I don't watch it. The other week there were some massive games on, I chose to watch Pompey Derby instead. Money obsessed sh ite the premiership. Can't wait for us to 'smash the league' next season and then be the first team to decline joining the premiership and tell them to stick the money. It's not sport anymore.
 
The offside law was introduced about a century ago to stop attackers from staying near their opponents' goal when defenders were tens of yards up the pitch, so that a long punt would not be able to put them in on goal behind the defenders. It was not intended to be used to measure the length of a player's toe nail.

Yes it was, it's always been on or off, even if you were over the other side of the pitch from the play.
 
Ah the foolish notion that football is something that can be defined by a set of rules correct to the least particle of existence. One molecule of the attacker beyond that of a defender and he's off. Ah but they cry, what of quantum entanglement there is a calculable chance that one of the defenders electrons is down by the corner flag playing him on...

Football it should not be forgotten is watched for entertainment despite what some on here would opine. Disturbing the enjoyment of this entertainment will eventually kill the pleasure and then you can watch the money disappear.
 
VAR needs to.f*cl off. Totally ruined an Fa cup special moment. 3-0 down at half time to win4-3 to be over ruled by an overgrown toe nail. How was that a clear an obvious error? That was the reason it was brought in.

Feel..sorry for those 36k Coventry fans that deserved that moment.

VAR has ruined ruined game.
Exacty. Marginal at best, ruined a potentially great FA Cup moment.
 
You talk as if the technology is infallible. Just today we have five contentious issues from two games. The technology was supposed to put an end to it. It’s made things worse than ever.
The offside is accurate within a margin of error that any human eye could perceive. Using var for offside works, just sometimes people don’t like the result it gives, doesn’t mean it isn’t correct though
 
With the really tight decisions - Thst was tight today

How do they know the exact point that the ball leaves the passing players foot? To me they just guess?
It’s the point of contact with the ball, that is where it is measured from
 
Exacty. Marginal at best, ruined a potentially great FA Cup moment.
Marginally off is off. There has to be a definitive rule for what is offside otherwise it’s just a guideline that can’t be applied clearly and evenly between games. If he’d have stayed onside there would be nothing to complain about, it’s his own fault
 
Marginally off is off. There has to be a definitive rule for what is offside otherwise it’s just a guideline that can’t be applied clearly and evenly between games. If he’d have stayed onside there would be nothing to complain about, it’s his own fault
When I saw the still he looked slightly off, but perhaps a different angle would have shown him on, we are trying to make something scientific which isn’t. Much rather leave it to the Lino’s eye….which in this case may still have been off, VAR attempts to give a level of certainty that it can’t.
 
Just found out Spain still refuses to adopt goal line technology.

Barcelona should be winning, the ball clearly and fully crossed the line but the referee didn't give it and played on.
 
Without the VAR I think he would have been flagged offside, he looked more offside in real time than he did on the VAR still.

The linesmen are told not to flag so it is deceiving to think that without the VAR it would have been a goal.
 
When I saw the still he looked slightly off, but perhaps a different angle would have shown him on, we are trying to make something scientific which isn’t. Much rather leave it to the Lino’s eye….which in this case may still have been off, VAR attempts to give a level of certainty that it can’t.
It is scientific. The angle of the line is calibrated from the pitch lines and several camera angles.

The rules are clear. There will always be marginal decisions and the scope for error is negligable
 
Without the VAR I think he would have been flagged offside, he looked more offside in real time than he did on the VAR still.

The linesmen are told not to flag so it is deceiving to think that without the VAR it would have been a goal.

They're told not to flag immediately, but will always flag after the phase of play is completed.
The ref and linesman 100% gave the goal, if not for VAR Coventry would have won.
 
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