Keiffer Moore didn’t fit our model of play - apparently

in Carrick's system I think it's more important that the no9 striker can receive the ball and hold it for a few seconds and wait for the support

I think that should be the no10’s job... Akpom did it brilliantly, and Rogers was starting to.

I want a pacy number 9 running the other way (in behind)


To be fair, Carrick hardly reinvented the wheel with that system… shearer and Sutton were doing it 30 years ago, Dalglish and Rush 15 years before that!
 
He would have been an expensive loan signing, a loan signing we would have very little chance of having the finances to make permanent in the summer, the type of signing the club is trying to move away from. So yes he doesn't fit our model, but not in the way you are insinuating.

I'd rather the club kept the money and invested it wisely in the summer in a long term signing with a much higher chance of reward.
 
Kieron Scott himself has said that he receives calls from hundreds of agents about hundreds of players as a transfer window approaches. Was Moore any more significant than any of the other 70, 120, 800 strikers that will have been mentioned over the course of November, December, January? Personally I would doubt it.

But not because he doesn’t fit ‘the model’ as people say now, when we lose, but because he doesn’t fit out style of play. We don’t cross the ball or play the ball in the air. Moore’s main strength is his heading.

Let’s face it, the OP and others are using ‘the model’ in a pejorative’ sense here. It’s like when we used to sign a young player from abroad and people would call them ‘projects’ because Gareth said it about it Emnes 15 years ago. People still say it.

They do it because they’re implying that Boro didn’t want to spend the money on someone because they’re only signing young players now, to develop and then sell on. Or that we are cutting corners somehow. Or that we are deliberately not signing players because we have no ambition. And that managers have no say in anything that goes on.

Personally, I would be very very surprised if Carrick wanted Moore. His team doesn’t play with a target man. We don’t play the ball long, we don’t play many crosses into the box. It’s just our style under Carrick. If Moore had the profile of an Archer, say, a quick, nippy, skilful player who relies on speed, skill and quick movement, and the club could get him having being offered him but chose not to do to the deal then you could understand people asking questions. But it wasn’t that.

People are deliberately using the term ‘the model’ here. You can see exactly who is saying it and what they mean by it. They don’t use it after wins, do they.

You can say I’m being surly or facetious in my responses to some posters but I’ve never been any different in the 12+ years I’ve read and posted on here. If I see what I think is posters just having needless potshots at the club then I like to challenge it and expect/like to be challenged back. It’s good back and forth almost all of the time.

There’s a lot to be critical of with Boro at the moment. We are struggling and some off-field stuff really does grate. But not signing a player who clearly doesn’t fit into our manager’s style of play, in my opinion, isn’t one of them.
I do remember your posts over 12+ years as someone reasoned and insightful and I often strongly agree with your positions and am generally respectful when I engage you. Perhaps you can remember my history of posting, which in terms of the football has never been disingenous or in the business of needless potshots at the club.

All I did was assert with knowledge that we had been touted a player who many feel could have had a positive impact on the squad and not acted on it regardless of any model.

Did it need a challenge that included reference to numerous nonsense rumours from over the years that imply and suggest that I am lying? I don't believe it did and I don't think you needed to respond in that manner to my post. Maybe save your desire to snap back at people you feel are doing whatever you feel it is they're doing?

My actual stance is that Coburn doesn't exactly fit the mould either does he? Yet when he plays and is fully fit, to my eye, the ball seems to stick a bit better and we are better at keeping the ball up the pitch. Carrick's commitment to his style of play is commendable but currently it isn't working and he might have been a player who could have had an impact on the squad with us being so light up top.

I don't think that's a particularly outlandish opinion but feel free to try and belittle me again in response, it only makes you look rude, at the expense of your generally good reason.
 
Btw I think I need to point out as there seems to be crossed wires.

For model I don’t mean this mythical buying structure that everyone bandies on about.

I mean it out as in our playing structure and style of play

Model of how Carrick wants us to play.

Sorry if that was confusing.
 
Btw I think I need to point out as there seems to be crossed wires.

For model I don’t mean this mythical buying structure that everyone bandies on about.

I mean it out as in our playing structure and style of play

Model of how Carrick wants us to play.

Sorry if that was confusing.
That will go hand in hand with recruitment, our style of play and identity/philosophy.
 
So exactly as I said. Ayling was signed to cover for Smith. He will not be at the club next season. He hasn’t done anywhere near enough to earn a contract. We’ll have Smith back to fitness and a new right in if Dijksteel leaves.

I expect Dijksteel to start on Wednesday. If he doesn’t then I’d be pretty concerned tbh.
smiths finished if you want promotion
 
Be a big blow mentally for Ipswich that, they could’ve gone joint top with minutes to go and now they might be six points off Leicester by the end of the day.
 
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