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Yep - absolutely finished - blokes lost it
look at this wonderful angle - explosive
look at this wonderful angle - explosive
Oh dearNow a shadow of his former brilliant best.
Without looking at the stats, Mbappe who is a similar age will surely have scored far more and won significantly more?
5 league titles and a World Cup (likely 2) by 23 isn’t bad goingMbappe hasn't won anything with a club yet has he? Surely domestic trophies in France don't count. We'd be a regular champions league team there.
Maradona was before my time so I'm relying on video. He was clearly incredibly talented but he was lucky to be playing in an era where footballers weren't always professional. His lifestyle could cope playing against drunks. He wouldn't last long at the top three days with his lifestyle against the athletes of today. Tactics have changed and everyone is much more disciplined. Messi has been the best player, playing against tougher opponents for longer
The thing about the goal is he’s aware that his ability/pace is in decline therefore the stop start of his run keeps the defender second guessing. MagicianYep - absolutely finished - blokes lost it
look at this wonderful angle - explosive
No fishing, just my opinion.Please stop mate this is brutal fishing
Yup If Haaland doesn't score he doesn't do much else. If he surpasses Messi's goalscoring records it doesn't prove anything. I'm almost certain he's not going to surpass Messi's goals and assists.Just a point to note, both Mbappe and Haaland rely on significant degree of athletcisim. Neither are anywhere near as skillful as a footballer as Messi and their effectiveness will almost certainly diminish as they age. These types of players mostly aren't as good when they start to lose some of their pace.
The other factor is that Mbappe and Haaland are both strikers. Messi has never been a striker as such, more of a playmaker who plays higher up the pitch. That's why judging him on purely goals would be silly. But it just happens that his goal stats are unbelievable for the type of player he is.
Modric knows ball"Modric also said he hopes that Messi “wins this World Cup, he’s the best player in history and he deserves it”"
A certain ex-teammate will be furious, prepare the cameras, Piers!
5 league titles and a World Cup (likely 2) by 23 isn’t bad going
Goal or not, he spent 90 minutes strolling around the edge of the penalty area, he was a luxury and the team was carrying him. He looked like a player returning from his summer holiday in the first friendly.
It’s a shame to see.
I know it was a high standard and they were great players. They weren't athletes like they are now and there was a drinking culture in football. I'm not saying everyone was hungover when playing but the players drank heavily multiple times a week and training was nothing like it is today. Probably wasn't as bad in Italy as it was in England but Maradona we know was doing a lot of drugs as well, I presume he wasn't the only one. That meant Maradona (and George Best as another good example) could be the best because the opposition was leading a similar lifestyle. These days it is a science, they have nutrionists and spend so much time in the gym that makes the two eras so different. Anyone with Maradona's lifestyle now wouldn't have a chance of being the best in the world on a regular basis like Messi has. Ronaldinho was the best for a few years but then he started partying too much and he couldn't stay there.Go and look at the teams and players who were playing in Seria A during Maradona's Napoli era. The standard was ridiculously high, it was literally a who's who of the best players in the world. Calling them a bunch of drunks is totally ignorant.
Love that angle. Incredible technique and balance.The thing about the goal is he’s aware that his ability/pace is in decline therefore the stop start of his run keeps the defender second guessing. Magician
Does him like a kipper.Love that angle. Incredible technique and balance.
Must be noted that he's up against one of the best young centre halves in the world in that clip too, makes him look like a Sunday league player.