Mick Lynch

1finny said:
I think Mick is in danger of alienating some people if he continues like this.
It was the same with the clip I saw on GMB this morning.

There really wasn’t anything wrong with the question, nor the earlier challenge about potentially losing support for the strike with their members following the most recent ballot.

He’s played a blinder so far - he’s entitled to a bad day.
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Sorry don't agree. He's right about the right wing narrative especially in relation to strikes. The whole line of questioning was an aggressive attack on people trying to defend their jobs and lifestyle.
Why shouldn't he raise it?
 
zzzzz said:
Sorry don't agree. He's right about the right wing narrative especially in relation to strikes. The whole line of questioning was an aggressive attack on people trying to defend their jobs and lifestyle.
Why shouldn't he raise it?
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Madeey was clumsy (obviously!) in his question around the disruption over Christmas. ML chose to debate on when Christmas started, and it was downhill from then onwards, as Madeley just starts to shout and rant like a poundshop Piers Morgan.

He should have tried to focus ,as you say, on people trying to defend their jobs, and ensure safety is put over profit on the railways (another reason they're striking, it's not all about pay) but as others have said ML has played a blinder so far, and so he's entitled to an off day.
 
zzzzz said:
Sorry don't agree. He's right about the right wing narrative especially in relation to strikes. The whole line of questioning was an aggressive attack on people trying to defend their jobs and lifestyle.
Why shouldn't he raise it?
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it was a strange question and one she couldn't justify afterwards.
 
Trug said:
It seems to me that none of that applied to Farage then.
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Farage was the 'balance' in the sense that he represented a significant body of opinion and was always available for interview, QT etc. Airtime for Brexiters being restricted to the same old faces e.g. Farage, Minford is more of a reflection of BBC producers' contact books.
 
My son trained engineer for network rail, started as an apprentice 12yrs ago, he was basically bullied in to joining the union in his first week as apprentice, he asked my opinion, I'm not a fan of unions so told to make his own mind up, he joined with reluctance. Came out after a year, at 19 years old he said he couldn't believe how backward looking the union is and wasn't prepared to fund them. He now runs a small rail engineering company in the private sector mainly in Europe. If he stayed with network rail he would be on £60k+ a year for his job, same job in the EU would be around £35k.
He thinks Network Rail could shed 40% of their workforce if they fully modernised to todays standards. One example Mick is fighting for even though he 'accepts modernisation' - Network Rail still do the majority of fault checking with 'walkers' chaps who walk the lines checking and identifying faults. 95% of this could be done with camera trains, but Mick won't accept any redundancies, he wants these 'walkers' of which around 80% could be replaced with technology to be guaranteed jobs elsewhere. It the same across the whole network, modernisation is welcomed by the union but there can't be any redundancies just natural wastage. Mick's a very good politicain and dodges most of the meaningful questions, and turns on the public sympathy taps, his poor vastly overpaid union members are suffering like everyone else.
Guess we will continue to pay stupidly high rail fares, for a generally a sub standard service, just to Mick and his union happy.
 
1finny said:
I think Mick is in danger of alienating some people if he continues like this.
It was the same with the clip I saw on GMB this morning.

There really wasn’t anything wrong with the question, nor the earlier challenge about potentially losing support for the strike with their members following the most recent ballot.

He’s played a blinder so far - he’s entitled to a bad day.
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I've heard Lynch do about half a dozen interviews this morning and about a 150 interviews since June. Every interview is the same, Lynch and his members are attacked in every interview and rather than discuss the facts he has to continually defend himself from misinformation which is peddled straight out of the Tory handbook.

If you listen to the end of the interview he absolutely bang on, the BBC are meant to be impartial rather than the radio version of the daily mail and I'm not surprised that after 7 months he's pig sick of it.

The Tories are pitting worker against worker and trying to divide us like they always do. At some point you are going to have to pick a side.
 
Hammies_Tash said:
My son trained engineer for network rail, started as an apprentice 12yrs ago, he was basically bullied in to joining the union in his first week as apprentice, he asked my opinion, I'm not a fan of unions so told to make his own mind up, he joined with reluctance. Came out after a year, at 19 years old he said he couldn't believe how backward looking the union is and wasn't prepared to fund them. He now runs a small rail engineering company in the private sector mainly in Europe. If he stayed with network rail he would be on £60k+ a year for his job, same job in the EU would be around £35k.
He thinks Network Rail could shed 40% of their workforce if they fully modernised to todays standards. One example Mick is fighting for even though he 'accepts modernisation' - Network Rail still do the majority of fault checking with 'walkers' chaps who walk the lines checking and identifying faults. 95% of this could be done with camera trains, but Mick won't accept any redundancies, he wants these 'walkers' of which around 80% could be replaced with technology to be guaranteed jobs elsewhere. It the same across the whole network, modernisation is welcomed by the union but there can't be any redundancies just natural wastage. Mick's a very good politicain and dodges most of the meaningful questions, and turns on the public sympathy taps, his poor vastly overpaid union members are suffering like everyone else.
Guess we will continue to pay stupidly high rail fares, for a generally a sub standard service, just to Mick and his union happy.
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Thats nonsense.
 
exiledinboro said:
The Richard Madeley interview was even worse

At one point he tells Lynch to jog on 🤦‍♂️
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mick was asked why he was ruining xmas.
he responded by saying his xmas doesn’t start until xmas eve
madeley rightly pointed out that was a daft answer.

If mick just want to resort to daft one liners he will lose support
 
Uwefuchs said:
I've heard Lynch do about half a dozen interviews this morning and about a 150 interviews since June. Every interview is the same, Lynch and his members are attacked in every interview and rather than discuss the facts he has to continually defend himself from misinformation which is peddled straight out of the Tory handbook.

If you listen to the end of the interview he absolutely bang on, the BBC are meant to be impartial rather than the radio version of the daily mail and I'm not surprised that after 7 months he's pig sick of it.

The Tories are pitting worker against worker and trying to divide us like they always do. At some point you are going to have to pick a side.
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I think he should stick to his persuasive script and take the questions in his stride
thats what put him in a great position
 
Hammies_Tash said:
Guess we will continue to pay stupidly high rail fares, for a generally a sub standard service, just to Mick and his union happy.
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You really believe that if the private sector owners of the railways were allowed to "modernise" and ultimately shed staff then we'd see an improvement in the service, or a reduction in fares - if so then I've got some magic beans to sell to you....
 
ThePrisoner said:
Rail bosses in the UK are like Father Christmas aren't they, giving away money off their own bat like this ? :whistle:
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Hammies_Tash said:
My son trained engineer for network rail, started as an apprentice 12yrs ago, he was basically bullied in to joining the union in his first week as apprentice, he asked my opinion, I'm not a fan of unions so told to make his own mind up, he joined with reluctance. Came out after a year, at 19 years old he said he couldn't believe how backward looking the union is and wasn't prepared to fund them. He now runs a small rail engineering company in the private sector mainly in Europe. If he stayed with network rail he would be on £60k+ a year for his job, same job in the EU would be around £35k.
He thinks Network Rail could shed 40% of their workforce if they fully modernised to todays standards. One example Mick is fighting for even though he 'accepts modernisation' - Network Rail still do the majority of fault checking with 'walkers' chaps who walk the lines checking and identifying faults. 95% of this could be done with camera trains, but Mick won't accept any redundancies, he wants these 'walkers' of which around 80% could be replaced with technology to be guaranteed jobs elsewhere. It the same across the whole network, modernisation is welcomed by the union but there can't be any redundancies just natural wastage. Mick's a very good politicain and dodges most of the meaningful questions, and turns on the public sympathy taps, his poor vastly overpaid union members are suffering like everyone else.
Guess we will continue to pay stupidly high rail fares, for a generally a sub standard service, just to Mick and his union happy.
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You can see why the RMT supported Brexit
 
1finny said:
mick was asked why he was ruining xmas.
he responded by saying his xmas doesn’t start until xmas eve
madeley rightly pointed out that was a daft answer.

If mick just want to resort to daft one liners he will lose support
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Madeley asked a silly question.

He deserved a silly answer.

Yes Mick should have rose above it.

But it was nice to see RM get what he deserved and then proceeded to make himself look like the complete clown he always has been.
 
I don't know what else people expect Lynch to say, he's literally doing the same interview now over and over again. The facts are out there and the RMT's position is clear.

Keep asking the same questions and eventually you're going to start ******* people off. If that loses the publics support because he gives short shrift to a BBC interviewer then so be it.

Its easy to say Lynch should remain calm and composed when you're sat at home watching it with your popcorn. Maybe he is getting ***ed off.
 
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