Woodgate first team coach !!

Normanby_Red said:
I can both like someone and believe them to be thicker than a submarine door. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I pray that we have some sort of resurgence in form and results pick up, but you can't tell me you're filled with confidence at the club reinstating a bloke who massively under performed and realistically should never have been appointed in the first place.

Any actual hatred towards Woodgate is silly given he is one of our own, but I wouldn't constitute calling him a thick tw@t as hatred. I could've went a step further and called him a thick c*nt, something I've called mates on many occasions but it still isn't hatred.
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I am the same I don't hate the guy but I don't get the praise for him, as a Boro player he wasn't here that long certainly not to be a boro legend. I cringe when a hear him speak as well he makes Neil maddsion sound elequent in comparison. Maybe he will become a good coach but I yet to be convinced
 
Normanby_Red said:
Any actual hatred towards Woodgate is silly given he is one of our ow
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Simon Clarke is "one of our own" too, am I meant to respect him, because I absolutely do not.
Not everyone from Teesside is great, just because they come from Teesside.
Woodgate was a brilliant player, but he was a disaster in his time here as manager.
If he is so good as a coach why did Bournemouth move him on sharpish and why did nobody else snap him up?
Being a coach for pulis hardly strengthens his case.
He carries more baggage than a porter at The Savoy.
 
I’m not sure about this at all. Carrick is a completely unknown quantity, Woodgate is a known quantity it just happens to be dogshite.

Neither of them are what we need in a relegation scrap.
 
indeedido said:
Simon Clarke is "one of our own" too, am I meant to respect him, because I absolutely do not.
Not everyone from Teesside is great, just because they come from Teesside.
Woodgate was a brilliant player, but he was a disaster in his time here as manager.
If he is so good as a coach why did Bournemouth move him on sharpish and why did nobody else snap him up?
Being a coach for pulis hardly strengthens his case.
He carries more baggage than a porter at The Savoy
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You're comparing apples with oranges by bringing Clarke into it although admittedly "one of our own" isn't always a reason to like a fella.

I agree 100% about him being a disaster of a manager. Fingers crossed he does well in management with whoever he goes to in the future, and I would love him and Carrick to promote us, but I can't understand why Gibson would bring him back after the way 19/20 went.
 
Normanby_Red said:
I agree 100% about him being a disaster of a manager. Fingers crossed he does well in management with whoever he goes to in the future, and I would love him and Carrick to promote us, but I can't understand why Gibson would bring him back after the way 19/20 went.
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Djed Spence for 12.5m and Jonathan Woodgate for 8m (both to Spurs) might explain some of Gibbo’s affection for our Woody and his contributions to the club.
 
BobendBert said:
Can anyone name another club that would even consider appointing a previously sacked manager as a coach under a new manager?
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You couldn't imagine Gibson bringing back Wilder or Monk to be first-team coach could you.

Let's be honest, a big reason why he's been brought back is because Gibson loves giving jobs to the boys.

If we appoint an experienced coach it will settle my nerves but appointing one is an absolute must in my opinion, or things could go horribly wrong.
 
Ravs said:
Djed Spence for 12.5m and Jonathan Woodgate for 8m (both to Spurs) might explain some of Gibbo’s affection for our Woody and his contributions to the club.
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I seem to recall also that Woody was influential in the acquisition and development of Djiksteel and Bola, who for minimal costs have become decent Championship players.
 
Woodgate fits the model. Warnock might suggest that his decision to send Spence on loan gifted us a windfall but Woody was brave enough to blood him and showcase his potential. He gave Tav a proper run in the team. Bola and Dijksteel also. There were positives from his tenure. Wilder accepted the model initially but then refused to play Forss and Hoppe. How are they meant to become the potential next Gyorkeres if they are sat on the bench. That is the club we are now. A development club that might strike it lucky and eventually get promoted through the development of players. Let’s embrace the model and develop potential rather than watching more experienced players just going through the motions. Woodgate seemed to believe in it. Carrick does. I think its gonna be decent.
 
starplayer said:
Woodgate fits the model. Warnock might suggest that his decision to send Spence on loan gifted us a windfall but Woody was brave enough to blood him and showcase his potential. He gave Tav a proper run in the team. Bola and Dijksteel also. There were positives from his tenure. Wilder accepted the model initially but then refused to play Forss and Hoppe. How are they meant to become the potential next Gyorkeres if they are sat on the bench. That is the club we are now. A development club that might strike it lucky and eventually get promoted through the development of players. Let’s embrace the model and develop potential rather than watching more experienced players just going through the motions. Woodgate seemed to believe in it. Carrick does. I think its gonna be decent.
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Good post starplayer!
He did give Tav a proper run and he does fit the model.
 
Woodgate coming back, really surprised by that as there was no chatter or anything anywhere about that one anywhere, would've thought that someone would have known something about this and posted about it before it was announced today :ROFLMAO:

I have nothing against the bloke, but his time in charge of us was a disaster meaning we needed Colin W@nker to come in and stop us from going down to League One ... so I didn't expect him to be back at the club this soon, working as high up as that anyway .. some of the younger lads clearly enjoyed working under Woody, though, I think - so I am hoping along with Carrick being announced that the lads are inspired and Rockliffe is a happy place again.

I thought Woody did a decent job at Bournemouth after he was here and clearly, must have a decent reputation in the game as a coach to have been trusted to take over that bunch of players at the time .. so he proved a lot of doubters wrong in a way, but I would not like to see him in charge of us again should Carrick succeed and go on to bigger and better things, or God forbid, is a disaster and leaves. That surely would leave Woody in a position again to take over again, one would have thought! But that is some way down the road haha

I was hoping Carrick was able to bring Muelensteen and Phelan along with him and that was what the hold-up was all about .. would have been bags of experience and more assurance the squad is under the right guidance IMO. Unless anything else has broken news-wise about either of them going to be added to Carrick's team as I write, as it stands it is not what I expected regarding; his backroom staff, and the return of Woody!

I am glad we have finally announced this, though. I wish Carrick the best of luck and hope he succeeds here. We are due some luck and a good run. Would be a fantastic start to the job if he can get us finishing in the top half this season. Also very interested to see what kind of players we could attract in the next window, given his connections. UTFB X
 
I'd also add that woodgate had good runs at both Middlesbrough and Bournemouth. He twice won Championship manager of the month.

Of course things ended badly in both situations - lost in the playoffs with Bournemouth and we fell apart in the new year.

The idea that he has no ability at all has little basis. Also Carrick will know him well they played through the England levels together, (both were schoolboys at Boro).

It isn't unreasonable that the club felt he did not succeed in his previous role here, but they felt he had skills that were more suited to this position that they had seen up close.
 
I've had a further think about it and found out* that the reason the process took so long was that Carrick insisted on Woodgate as part of his coaching staff and initially Gibbo said no way. Gibbo had a rethink and here we are.

Prove me wrong.




*made the known facts fit a certain narrative
 
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