Helping to understand what it is like to be black

That's a great video and some of the things he talked about were touched upon in the Black Lives Matter thread.
 
It’s an interesting video. I like the running race analogy. I just hope we get some momentum behind this and finally see long lasting change.
Ps don’t get me started on cyclist wearing headphones!
 
I have read the article Jonny, but honestly am confused over what the author actually wants to see, or see happen.
He is so angry about everything and everyone, but what does he think should happen and how?
 
There's clearly a true cause and real issues out there which need addressing. Unfortunately it looks like there is also a lot of bullshlt and bandwagon jumpers clouding the issue.
 
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The video is a good watch, but the view about how Kaepernick's stance 'didn't work' doesn't make a lot of sense to me because it was heard around the world and he made a very big noise that cost him his career. If the idea that it 'didn't work' is that the world didn't change overnight then fair enough, it didn't, but this is a long road and if the 1960s were step 1 of 100 steps, we're still maybe only at step 10, we will not get to step 100 overnight and not during these protests. But the protests should still happen, although I wouldn't condone acts of arson, because they might take us to step 20 or step 50 quite quickly.

The part I struggle with the most, I think, is that as a (white) member of a mixed race family, I want the cause and the argument behind it to be absolutely robust and bullet proof when its discussed. There is a bullet proof argument to be made, but some people are not making it because they're too busy trying to shame people who are actually on their side for not doing 'enough' (members of my family are falling out about this, all of whom are mixed race). Its a dogmatic view, and dogma is not good. I'm also seeing a lot of debate closed down, and I don't think that's healthy either.

I think rofesleg has a point that sometimes band wagon jumpers serve to cloud the issue rather than further the cause, because the points they make are not thought about hard enough, and the people on the fence aren't going to be swayed by those points.
 
The most interesting thing for me when I heard it before I saw the video was the back communities view that they are institutionally handicapped.
The point LBJ raised something like - ‘you can’t chain black people up fo 00s of years, set them free and say ‘job done, we are all equal’.
It certainly helped me understand the rationale for needing to positively look out to help them.
 
I am experiencing a lot of ageism at the moment and it directly affects my livelihood. Unfortunately I live in a place where it is not illegal to discriminate on age and is openly flouted as a reason not to engage in something. I kind of accept that its just the way it is here. Just pointing out there are other forms of discrimination out there.
 
1finny said:
The most interesting thing for me when I heard it before I saw the video was the back communities view that they are institutionally handicapped.
The point LBJ raised something like - ‘you can’t chain black people up fo 00s of years, set them free and say ‘job done, we are all equal’.
It certainly helped me understand the rationale for needing to positively look out to help them.
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Yes, I’ve always held that view too, for a long time anyway. They are a few steps behind us at birth because of the colour of their skin, which isn’t right.
 
HundredRoom said:
I am experiencing a lot of ageism at the moment and it directly affects my livelihood. Unfortunately I live in a place where it is not illegal to discriminate on age and is openly flouted as a reason not to engage in something. I kind of accept that its just the way it is here. Just pointing out there are other forms of discrimination out there.
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Not sure why you are? I don't think old people have ever been enslaved. You sound like one of those blokes on the internet who says "al lives matter"
 
HundredRoom said:
I am experiencing a lot of ageism at the moment and it directly affects my livelihood. Unfortunately I live in a place where it is not illegal to discriminate on age and is openly flouted as a reason not to engage in something. I kind of accept that its just the way it is here. Just pointing out there are other forms of discrimination out there.
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Where do you live Hundred?
 
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Not sure why you are? I don't think old people have ever been enslaved. You sound like one of those blokes on the internet who says "al lives matter"
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Poor attitude that smalltown, ageism is in every walk of life and it happens just as much as racism
 
Please read the post by Harry Vegas - in no way do we want to downplay ageism but racism goes a whole lot deeper and its effects are quick shocking. I think we all owe it to the world to understand and try to combat and change racism. I think we pretty much all have elements of racism in us, we probably need to think about and confront that first and change ourselves before we try and change the world. It has to be time for change.
 
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