Teesside Airshow… more like Teesside **** Show

Ian Bairds Ears said:
I believe its footfall makes it the least used station in England!
Anyway who organised the show yesterday....they should be out front telling people what went wrong and putting it right for next year or no one will.go
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A crash on the A66 apparently ... what a load of ...
 
American_Mary said:
Thanks DL, I think without being explicit I did allude to the connection between Petty's contributions to Houchen's campaigns and the seemingly positive effect having Petty as a director has on the chances of untendered contract award from the Mayoral Office. I think sometimes it's better to draw the dots and let others connect them 👍
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Not to mention his sell off of Tees Works.
 
Pear-Drops said:
No car park stewarding ?
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That's just untrue. I made it to the car park and there were literally dozens of stewards organising the parking of cars. Setting off from Barwick at 9.45 it did take me an hour 45 to get there but nothing like the queues some experienced.
 
Will be 30000+ at the touring cars at Croft in 2 weeks. Wonder be anywhere near the traffic problems at the Airshow
 
Having thought about it they should have made the road from Darlington to Eaglescliffe one way. I.e. from Eaglescliffe to the airport one way and Darlo to the airport the other. Then after the show one way the alternative way.

My brother's son in law went with his son. They said the traffic was a nightmare but the show well worth it.
 
Same_as_before said:
Having thought about it they should have made the road from Darlington to Eaglescliffe one way. I.e. from Eaglescliffe to the airport one way and Darlo to the airport the other. Then after the show one way the alternative way.

My brother's son in law went with his son. They said the traffic was a nightmare but the show well worth it.
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Shame he didn’t speak to you earlier as you’d known for weeks about the traffic problems. He could have planned better and set off earlier.

Maybe he can just watch Netflix next time.
 
Same_as_before said:
Having thought about it they should have made the road from Darlington to Eaglescliffe one way. I.e. from Eaglescliffe to the airport one way and Darlo to the airport the other. Then after the show one way the alternative way.

My brother's son in law went with his son. They said the traffic was a nightmare but the show well worth it.
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Well worth it in the end?? It’s clear some people are easily pleased. It was poor
 
To be fair you do come across as a bloke who could empty a pub in 5 minutes discussing how nice your lawn is and the types of weedkiller you use.

Don't forget to complain about kids out the front.

Netflix is not a bad idea, and a good read a warm Horlicks and be a devil an opal fruit to finish the night off.

You do seem to hate people having a good time.
Linny said:
Shame he didn’t speak to you earlier as you’d known for weeks about the traffic problems. He could have planned better and set off earlier.

Maybe he can just watch Netflix next time.
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Same_as_before said:
To be fair you do come across as a bloke who could empty a pub in 5 minutes discussing how nice your lawn is and the types of weedkiller you use.

Don't forget to complain about kids out the front.

Netflix is not a bad idea, and a good read a warm Horlicks and be a devil an opal fruit to finish the night off.

You do seem to hate people having a good time.
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Strange retort. No idea what any of that is referencing.

My lawns in terrible condition.

My comment was in reference to you criticising those attending the event. I think it’s a shame so many had their day out spoiled by inadequate event planning.

But I hate people having a good time? Bizarre.
 
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Sounds like a good event slightly spoiled by poor planning and/or unfortunate circumstances.

I am sure the organisers will have had a traffic management plan in place. Its not like its unknown that the airport has limited access and little or no public transport access.

I hope they sort this out for their normal business as they're going to have to deal with 6 times as many passengers in a few years time.
 
Unravel_Morrison said:
Sounds like a good event slightly spoiled by poor planning and/or unfortunate circumstances.

I am sure the organisers will have had a traffic management plan in place. Its not like its unknown that the airport has limited access and little or no public transport access.

I hope they sort this out for their normal business as they're going to have to deal with 6 times as many passengers in a few years time.
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Limited access...

There are at least 6 separate places that you can access the airport for an airshow. Not all of them are ideal, but in years gone by, cars entered at the gate on the south side (where the fuel dump is now), and were parked on the grass between there and the terminal. There's also the emergency gate at the south end of the runway, and the other emergency gate near St George's church in Low Middleton. On the north side, there are gates near Wilkinson's nursery, and the farm at the north end of the runway (using the railway crossing, so not ideal). There is the new road to the terminal, and the old road through the old RAF buildings and out towards the station. The latter route was the only one being used on Saturday apparently.

Surely they could have had more than one entrance, so that the traffic from Stockton and the A66 didn't snag with traffic from Eaglescliffe and the A67, and traffic coming from Darlington through Middleton St George. It all met at the roundabout on the A67 near the railway line, and snarled up. Once past that, it was quite quick to get on and park. Again, when leaving, having more than one exit would have been good. A lot of the traffic trying to get out was having to cross the path of traffic still arriving.
 
I'm baffled by the easy ride that some are willing to give the organisers, good organisation and planning mitigates all bar the most unfortunate of circumstances, extreme weather, major incident, etc my understanding is the traffic plan was signed off with caveats and they are trying to shift the focus from their own mistakes onto others, Stockton Council Events manager advised the plan was unworkable and apparently had full agreement from her counterpart in Darlington, both sit on the Safety Advisory Board and both expressed grave concerns that TMP was unworkable.

The organisers need to take responsibility for their mismanagement offer immediate refunds, honestly explain what the issues were and if involved again show that all lessons have been learned and this debacle was part of a steep learning curve, lame excuses and an attitude of pointing the finger away from themselves and at others should not be allowed to wash, you want the kudos and profit of success you need to take the anger and loss of failure.

What should have been a flagship event that showcased the region has now become a cause celebre and has been met with more negativity than positivity, to even the most uneducated the notion of holding a 22k ticket event at a working airport and to not expect problems seems to show a degree of naivety and a lack of cognisance that would make their ability to execute such an undertaken questionable.

No other commercial airport in the UK is having an air show at their premises, the majority are free events held in places with diverse communication links and with basics like Park and Ride, shuttle buses and contraflow systems in place, no other event this year will have as many ticket holders who won't even make it to the venue, the idea of a Teesside Air Show is a great one that I'm sure all of us are behind, but it shouldn't be at Teesside Airport but somewhere else in the region with a track record of being able to handle expected numbers, with proper provisions for traffic and crowd management, with alternative transport options and where everybody gets in and the talk of what a great day they've had and spectacular display they've seen is the major topic of conversation.
 
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People who donate to the mayors election campaign getting contracts is always going to be questionable but even more so when they don’t appear to have the organisational talent for the event they have been awarded. Interesting to see one of the biggest donors to Mr Houchen’s campaign was one Mr S Gibson. Perhaps he could have been asked to organise it?
 
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