Central Middlesbrough & Parliament Road

Anyone visit the fair last week? Do any middlesbrough born people use Albert Park anymore?

I didnt feel like i was in Middlesbrough!
 
JM14 said:
Sadly locking up drug users for years is a huge vote winner despite millions of examples showing it just makes things worse, would expect drug laws to get even tougher under this government
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I would doubt that any of the criminals around the area have been “locked up for years” for drug use/possession alone. It’s the opposite - fickle policy is the problem.
 
Colin Warnek said:
I would doubt that any of the criminals around the area have been “locked up for years” for drug use/possession alone. It’s the opposite - fickle policy is the problem.
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Is it fickle? It seems like locking them up is always the end result. Education and rehabilitation is surely the key, criminalisation with young vulnerable people in and out of prison effectively ruining their life will only lead to a life of crime and make the problems so much worse further down the line

Its no surprise that with levels of poverty and deprivation being so high in the area that this is how so many end up
 
DCI_Gene_Hunt said:
Rob will be along shortly to tell us what a nice area it is and how the Sun have got it all wrong. Why Rob will even walk around at night it's that safe.

Or will he?
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Parliament Road wants flattening. As do most of the streets surrounding it.

Bailiff work down parly road was entertaining at best, terrifying after 5pm.
 
I love Middlesbrough and Stockton in equal measures but both have gone to rack and ruin.

In the early 80's I would go anywhere in either town and have a good time - I would worry about my sons (in their 20s) going around the town these days.
I posted on another thread about Angry people were and I thought that generally people were way angrier today than back then - I might be wrong but something is driving lawlessness
 
Wiseman_Vaughn said:
I posted on another thread about Angry people were and I thought that generally people were way angrier today than back then - I might be wrong but something is driving lawlessness
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Same at many away games, it's white and the HoC is full of traces of it..............................................
 
Davey_C said:
Anyone visit the fair last week? Do any middlesbrough born people use Albert Park anymore?

I didnt feel like i was in Middlesbrough!
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We walk the dog their regularly, mbro born and bred, how did you know who was middlesbrough born and who wasn't?
 
Not living in Boro, I can't really comment but what I do know is that council funding from central government has been absolutely slashed ever since the Tories began stripping away pretty much every central government spending responsibility, all under the cover of 'austerity'. Councils are skint and the Tories have stripped police numbers back to such an extent they're completely ineffective these days. The effect of all that is what you can see in every economically poor area. And how do these red wall areas' electorates respond? Blame their Labour councils who have had to spend years cutting back services under government duress and vote for the party who causes their misery.
 
Wiseman_Vaughn said:
I love Middlesbrough and Stockton in equal measures but both have gone to rack and ruin.

In the early 80's I would go anywhere in either town and have a good time - I would worry about my sons (in their 20s) going around the town these days.
I posted on another thread about Angry people were and I thought that generally people were way angrier today than back then - I might be wrong but something is driving lawlessness
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Don't you think they was plenty if fights in the pubs 80s 90s ? I think there's less now, though can be more violent
 
jam69 said:
Don't you think they was plenty if fights in the pubs 80s 90s ? I think there's less now, though can be more violent
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I acknowledged on the other thread that it was definitely violent back then and I was probably looking back through rose tinted spex.

I think I was fairly streetwise back then so could see trouble coming and avoid it.
 
JM14 said:
Is it fickle? It seems like locking them up is always the end result. Education and rehabilitation is surely the key, criminalisation with young vulnerable people in and out of prison effectively ruining their life will only lead to a life of crime and make the problems so much worse further down the line

Its no surprise that with levels of poverty and deprivation being so high in the area that this is how so many end up
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Can you give evidence as to those locked up for possession and use alone? Drugs cause crime, they need stopping at the user level as well as the root.
 
Wiseman_Vaughn said:
I love Middlesbrough and Stockton in equal measures but both have gone to rack and ruin.

In the early 80's I would go anywhere in either town and have a good time - I would worry about my sons (in their 20s) going around the town these days.
I posted on another thread about Angry people were and I thought that generally people were way angrier today than back then - I might be wrong but something is driving lawlessness
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We have a thread like this every so often.

It can largely be reduced to blokes in their 40s+ don't feel as bulletproof as they did in their teens and twenties.
 
jam69 said:
We walk the dog their regularly, mbro born and bred, how did you know who was middlesbrough born and who wasn't?
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By their appearance and language spoke. But from a business point of view it was busy, just wasnt many english people about
 
Left TS1(one of the roads off Parli road) a couple of years ago and some of the stuff I witnessed before leaving was incredible. Looked out the window one day because I heard some shouting outside, a lad went zipping past with a golf club in his hand, quickly followed by someone chasing him with a machete. Windows getting put through regularly, neighbours car tyres got slashed and not just on the sly either, they stood there and slashed them as my neighbour was watching, they didn't care at all.

When I was younger I'd walk home from town at night in that area and even then people said I was mad but I never ever felt at risk, I wouldn't dream of doing that now. The last couple of years there I wouldn't even wear my headphones when I was walking about because it felt like you needed to be aware of what was going on at all times. I think there was an article in the Gazette not long ago that said it had the 9th highest crime rate in the UK, absolutely mental.

My parents got out of there last year too thankfully, they're the last people out of all my family, mates and even parents of mates to leave the area.
 
Chappy112 said:
Left TS1(one of the roads off Parli road) a couple of years ago and some of the stuff I witnessed before leaving was incredible. Looked out the window one day because I heard some shouting outside, a lad went zipping past with a golf club in his hand, quickly followed by someone chasing him with a machete. Windows getting put through regularly, neighbours car tyres got slashed and not just on the sly either, they stood there and slashed them as my neighbour was watching, they didn't care at all.

When I was younger I'd walk home from town at night in that area and even then people said I was mad but I never ever felt at risk, I wouldn't dream of doing that now. The last couple of years there I wouldn't even wear my headphones when I was walking about because it felt like you needed to be aware of what was going on at all times. I think there was an article in the Gazette not long ago that said it had the 9th highest crime rate in the UK, absolutely mental.

My parents got out of there last year too thankfully, they're the last people out of all my family, mates and even parents of mates to leave the area.
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Middlesbrough city everyone. Years of blind eyes and bungs have caused it.
 
what a sad state of affairs - I'm sure it's the same everywhere. No amount of investment can change the people causing the problems
 
Davey_C said:
Anyone visit the fair last week? Do any middlesbrough born people use Albert Park anymore?

I didnt feel like i was in Middlesbrough!
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I was in the park several times over the weekend - there were several hundred of us at the parkrun for starters, then several hundred more for the beacon lighting. Obviously you don't need a Middlesbrough passport to attend or enjoy the park.
Albert parkrun celebrated its 14th birthday on Saturday. It was a proper community event. The park as the centre of the community. As I say it isn't restricted to Middlesbrough born only and why should it be.
What exactly are you trying to say by this post?
 
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