Randy
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Can someone explain the difference between a tent and the pub?
Every lockdown has had provided a reduction in casesThere's no evidence for any of it @Randy a year in and they have no correlation for any of it.
Florida and Texas Vs California and new York and I immediately accept that there's differences between the States but the point being there is NO evidence that anything that any of us have been subject to the past year has a benefit. You'd hope that we'd have some pretty solid evidence by now given the massive cost we've paid and will be paying for many years.
So why have the numbers significantly decreased around the times lockdown was introduced?There's no evidence for any of it @Randy a year in and they have no correlation for any of it.
Florida and Texas Vs California and new York and I immediately accept that there's differences between the States but the point being there is NO evidence that anything that any of us have been subject to the past year has a benefit. You'd hope that we'd have some pretty solid evidence by now given the massive cost we've paid and will be paying for many years.
Bit obvious? You don't get lashed in a Costa and get into a dontgiveafk mode.View attachment 16149
Why are you allowed to sit in a Costa coffee in a service station and eat and drink but not anywhere else?
So why have the numbers significantly decreased around the times lockdown was introduced?
Not exactly groundbreaking that the transmission of a virus will decrease when person to person contact is reduced.
Unsurprising that people have gone so quiet about the Sweden example over the last few months, no lockdowns haven’t exactly worked out well for them
What are you on about?Bit obvious? You don't get lashed in a Costa and get into a dontgiveafk mode.
Look at their death rate compared to neighbouring countries, and then tell me if it’s fine1) Sweden is absolutely fine what are you on about?
2) repeat after me correlation=/=causation
3) Most transmission is in the home, not elsewhere. That is proven.
See tweet above your post. Or is it willfully ignored?Look at their death rate compared to neighbouring countries, and then tell me if it’s fine
Of course it is, because people hadn’t been able to go anywhere else for 9 of the last 12 months but their home, wouldn’t expect much transmission in pubs if they’ve been closed the majority of the year would you?
Look at their death rate compared to neighbouring countries, and then tell me if it’s fine
Of course it is, because people hadn’t been able to go anywhere else for 9 of the last 12 months but their home, wouldn’t expect much transmission in pubs if they’ve been closed the majority of the year would you?
Just pointing out they have a significant death rate, some people have made the point many times that they didnt lockdown and everything was fine, this clearly isnt the case and they have suffered many needless deaths. If the UK had continued without these lockdowns it would have been absolutely devastating for thousands.Why would you compare Sweden to anyone else? I literally made the point above, if you want to do the comparison game, Texas Vs California, Florida Vs NYC. It doesn't make sense to do it. Sweden is absolutely fine right now and has been all last year people died like they do every year and that is sad and those people were mourned and life was lived, tale as old as time.
And of course it is because that's how transmission works, someone goes to work, goes out and brings it into a house. Same way it's worked every year ever.
You're absolutely terrified of normality, I'm sorry you feel that way.
What is this nonsense about fear of normality? You've accused me of it and now someone else. Could it be down to your own lack of ability to manage self discipline, your inability to act responsibly, or your lack of regard for social and community safeguarding and well-being, or possibly all of those things?Why would you compare Sweden to anyone else? I literally made the point above, if you want to do the comparison game, Texas Vs California, Florida Vs NYC. It doesn't make sense to do it. Sweden is absolutely fine right now and has been all last year people died like they do every year and that is sad and those people were mourned and life was lived, tale as old as time.
And of course it is because that's how transmission works, someone goes to work, goes out and brings it into a house. Same way it's worked every year ever.
You're absolutely terrified of normality, I'm sorry you feel that way.
What is this nonsense about fear of normality? You've accused me of it and now someone else. Could it be down to your own lack of ability to manage self discipline or your lack of regard for social and community well-being, or possibly both?
What is this nonsense about fear of normality? You've accused me of it and now someone else. Could it be down to your own lack of ability to manage self discipline, your inability to act responsibly, or your lack of regard for social and community safeguarding and well-being, or possibly all of those things?
It seems to be lost on you that some people are in favour of certain restrictions and guidance in order to return to normality, but you somehow interpret that as fear of it. That view makes absolutely zero sense and I'm sorry you clearly feel that way, you've got some very unhappy and, as your posts suggest, angry times ahead
I'm 44Oh don't get me wrong Artie me old mucka, I'm fully aware that normality in terms of 2019 isn't coming back anytime soon and you're right that does make me sad but I am well into acceptance.
I'd actually argue I care about community and that's why I'd want it back because obviously right now things are as bad as they've been for a very very long time socially, culturally. If you look at my posts they were about the lack of evidence and the cost of lockdowns, I'm fully aware some people are in favour of restrictions.
My point about his fear of normality is based on his posts and yours. You've had two shots, you're old I get you're scared, it's that there is no evidence for the restrictions not that I don't care.