So where is Priti Patel?

It's disgusting that she's sorry people feel they've been let down. Where is the accountability, when does someone step up and say 'actually, this isn't good enough and hasn't been good enough'? Until they can acknowledge their failures they are allowing a growing resentment against the Tory party and its lack of leadership, even amongst a growing number of those who voted for them. They're becoming a bigger disgrace by the hour.
It's all good because they won't win the next general election will they?

I mean after years and years of cuts to everything and people's livelihoods destroyed by them they wouldn't win an election would they?
 
On most metrics we look like we are coming out of this as the second worse behind the United States, I and many others think that this isn’t good enough and are looking for reasons as to why this might be so.

There may be a whole load of mitigation’s and valid reasons as to why but ultimately for many people the buck stops with the Government and their actions, it’s far from a witch hunt based on political ideology but a genuine concern that we keep as many of our people safe.
on what information do you base that assertion, I had a quick look and I’m not sure I’m drawing the same https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 
It's all good because they won't win the next general election will they?

I mean after years and years of cuts to everything and people's livelihoods destroyed by them they wouldn't win an election would they?

What's your point? They are in power and should be acting in the best interests of the 60m plus people across the UK. They aren't, they're acting in the best interests of their funders. Do you really think this won't have any impact on how the Tories are viewed moving forward?
 
What's your point? They are in power and should be acting in the best interests of the 60m plus people across the UK. They aren't, they're acting in the best interests of their funders. Do you really think this won't have any impact on how the Tories are viewed moving forward?

"Do you really think this won't have any impact on how the Tories are viewed moving forward? "

Do you know what WeeGord, my concern is that for a large number of people, it won't - I have family members and friends who still think that the government is doing a decent job, despite all the evidence to the contrary
 
"Do you really think this won't have any impact on how the Tories are viewed moving forward? "

Do you know what WeeGord, my concern is that for a large number of people, it won't - I have family members and friends who still think that the government is doing a decent job, despite all the evidence to the contrary

If, after all the dust has settled, we are left with thousands of unnecessary deaths and if the morally bankrupt austerity policies enforced by the Government over a decade or more doesn't get people to the point where the penny drops then there is no hope at all for the future.
 
I think Diane Abbots questionable maths has been brought into focus here.

Dear me. Add innumerate to the many many negative qualities this egregious woman has.
People really don’t like her - what has she supposedly done to stir up so much hatred?
 
What's your point? They are in power and should be acting in the best interests of the 60m plus people across the UK. They aren't, they're acting in the best interests of their funders. Do you really think this won't have any impact on how the Tories are viewed moving forward?
My post has gone right over your head hasn't it? 😉

Of course they aren't going to win the next election.
 
I think you are winding yourself up into a bit of a frenzy wee gord , have a drink and take a few deep breaths.

No, you're coming here trolling then refusing to back up anything you say. If it looks like a troll and acts like a troll then guess what? It sure as hell is one!
 
No, you're coming here trolling then refusing to back up anything you say. If it looks like a troll and acts like a troll then guess what? It sure as hell is one!
So today you’ve called me spineless and a troll - you should try and be a better person!
 
So today you’ve called me spineless and a troll - you should try and be a better person!

Whatever you do, don't question the person that I am because I'm calling you out. You spinelessly walked away from a conversation because you were in the wrong and you're also the one trying to troll me. Perhaps its you that should be the better person instead of an internet troll who tries to ignite arguments then walks away?
 
Whatever you do, don't question the person that I am because I'm calling you out. You spinelessly walked away from a conversation because you were in the wrong and you're also the one trying to troll me. Perhaps its you that should be the better person instead of an internet troll who tries to ignite arguments then walks away?
I’m not a troll Wee Gord - suggest you calm down.
 
So today you’ve called me spineless and a troll - you should try and be a better person!

I'm perfectly calm thanks FatCat; it takes an awful lot more than someone like you to raise my blood pressure. How about getting back to the point though rather than deflecting? Can you please explain why you are so in love with this Tory government and Priti Patel and them being beyond any sort of reproach from you?
 
I think you must be drunk ? You are accusing ME of trolling you when if you look back on this thread I was talking to somebody else before you decided to interject. That does not make me a troll.
 
I think you must be drunk ? You are accusing ME of trolling you when if you look back on this thread I was talking to somebody else before you decided to interject. That does not make me a troll.

I'm certainly not drunk FatCat, you're plainly not willing to engage in debate and only capable of deflection and whataboutery... seems typical for a Tory these days. Regarding my 'interjection' my understanding was this was a public forum with public threads? If you don't want people to respond to these threads then take your conversations to the private inbox facility this site provides otherwise accept people will pull you up on the ridiculous crap you post.
 
I'm certainly not drunk FatCat, you're plainly not willing to engage in debate and only capable of deflection and whataboutery... seems typical for a Tory these days. Regarding my 'interjection' my understanding was this was a public forum with public threads? If you don't want people to respond to these threads then take your conversations to the private inbox facility this site provides otherwise accept people will pull you up on the ridiculous crap you post.
You are perfectly entitled to do that indeed I welcome it - but then please retract where you call me a troll and say that I’m trolling you? Doesn’t make sense does it if you approached me?
 
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