Redwurzel
Well-known member
Ref State helping low income families with children.
Surely people have a right to 1 or 2 children.
I agree fathers need to provide financial support.
Those 2 children when adults are useful to the whole country as they will often provide support to elderly and/or disabled parents and taking pressure off the State.
Neither are there are millions of permanent intergenerational welfare dependent families as the Sun etc will tell you - people tend to come in and out of poverty. I have relatives whose only income was welfare benefits for 15 years (in the 1980s), but who both have worked for the last 25 years paying taxes. One of their children is a maths teacher, another a care worker, another a remedial therapist, another is a customers services call centre trainer. All have worked and paid taxes since leaving education. Those relatives lived in an economically depressed area of Teesside and could not get work when leaving school and thus work experience.
The chidren also provide a potential adult workforce (such as care workers) and armed forces in some cases to protect the whole country.
Free school meals ensures children are fed in the middle of the day which helps their development to learn and gives the opportunity for both parents to work in the middle of the day. The free meals also keep the cost per meal down for all through economies of scale in school catering facilities.
Free state secondary schools is worth approx £180 per week per child while free school meals is £15 per week - Should the parents of all children be asked to pay some of the full cost of schooling? - particualrly when they have several children? They may say I pay my council tax but that's only £35 per week - I don't agree with this but the principle is similiar, the more children who have the more subsidise you get.
If only people with say regular paid jobs over £25k a year were allowed children would we be better off as a nation? We certainly would struggle to fill most low level jobs without mass immigration.
Surely people have a right to 1 or 2 children.
I agree fathers need to provide financial support.
Those 2 children when adults are useful to the whole country as they will often provide support to elderly and/or disabled parents and taking pressure off the State.
Neither are there are millions of permanent intergenerational welfare dependent families as the Sun etc will tell you - people tend to come in and out of poverty. I have relatives whose only income was welfare benefits for 15 years (in the 1980s), but who both have worked for the last 25 years paying taxes. One of their children is a maths teacher, another a care worker, another a remedial therapist, another is a customers services call centre trainer. All have worked and paid taxes since leaving education. Those relatives lived in an economically depressed area of Teesside and could not get work when leaving school and thus work experience.
The chidren also provide a potential adult workforce (such as care workers) and armed forces in some cases to protect the whole country.
Free school meals ensures children are fed in the middle of the day which helps their development to learn and gives the opportunity for both parents to work in the middle of the day. The free meals also keep the cost per meal down for all through economies of scale in school catering facilities.
Free state secondary schools is worth approx £180 per week per child while free school meals is £15 per week - Should the parents of all children be asked to pay some of the full cost of schooling? - particualrly when they have several children? They may say I pay my council tax but that's only £35 per week - I don't agree with this but the principle is similiar, the more children who have the more subsidise you get.
If only people with say regular paid jobs over £25k a year were allowed children would we be better off as a nation? We certainly would struggle to fill most low level jobs without mass immigration.
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