Would you consider moving to an Independent Scotland?

Would you move to an Independent Scotland?


  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .
Lovely place , fantastic in the sunshine, but for six months of the year I can imagine it’s pretty cold and dull and for that reason im out!

The weather in South East Scotland is almost identical to North East England. Scotland is much more mountainous than England and Wales (there are about 60 mountains higher than Snowdon and 160 higher than Scafell Pike) so temperature headlines are always somewhat misleading. If - as the majority do - you live in the central belt between Edinburgh and Glasgow then it's similar to what you'd be used to in northern England. Warmer and wetter in the west, cooler and drier in the east.
 
The naval and military shipbuilding could NOT stay in Scotland for Security Clearance purposes. Lads in NI found out there cost that when they applied for Irish dual citizenship that they became excluded from working on military projects. Huge amount of backpeddling going on right now.

Do we therefore no longer call it the British Pound, or the British Armed forces.?

Dont get me wrong, I would happily vote for Scottish independence.
English Democrats have a similar view.
I trust you wouldnt serve under a Scottish Officer?
 
The weather in South East Scotland is almost identical to North East England. Scotland is much more mountainous than England and Wales (there are about 60 mountains higher than Snowdon and 160 higher than Scafell Pike) so temperature headlines are always somewhat misleading. If - as the majority do - you live in the central belt between Edinburgh and Glasgow then it's similar to what you'd be used to in northern England. Warmer and wetter in the west, cooler and drier in the east.
I live in London these days - but you are right I guess Scotland is quite a wide category to base the decision on. Maybe I was thinking more of the north west.
 
Can we not just move the border further south?

We can play in ‘Premier League North‘

No thanks.
Let's leave the border where it is and those who look longingly north move up there.
I maintain Scotland's best export will always be people.
 
Just for clarity - this Landmark poll asked just 1,011 people.
That is less than .0002 of a percent of the population.

I wonder if they asked the right ones.
:unsure:
 
Scottish independence..... another consequence of Corbyn's decimation of the Labour Party.

If I was a Scot I'd now vote out as well.
 
TBH I can't stand nationalism... - even though to many I'd be a little Englander & rabbid bigoted brexiter - & I do want out of the current EU administrative & political project... ultimately we need shot of the nationalists & form something like Churchill envisioned - a true United States of Europe.. lave the nation states as 'regions' for sporting purposes....

Further down the line... we need shot of all the Putin's Kim's & Trumps of the world to realise we're just one insignificant - in the scheme of things - planet & form an administration to govern that on a global basis....

The last one should have included a binding - next vote available in 25 years - agreement in it..
 
Perhaps Scotland needs to be independent to become part of the United States of Europe (as the Brexit campaign said the EU project was heading).
 
It would all depend on the future relationship. If there was a common defence policy then why not? It is the Royal Navy, not the UK navy or the English navy.

As for what we will all be called, well, don't forget the separate country of Wales was conquered by England in the late 13th Century and the Laws in Wales Acts 1535 and 1542 fully incorporated Wales into the Kingdom of England. When Elizabeth died without an heir in 1603 England begged James VI of Scotland to also become King of England in a personal union. In 1706/07 the Acts of Union formally joined the two nations into the Kingdom of Great Britain, with a common Parliament and a common currency but separate legal systems. The currency, Parliament, armed forces and other assets and liabilities are jointly owned. It was a partnership of equals that over time, due to population and the concentration of power has become dominated so much by England that this is overlooked. So if this Union is dissolved assets and liabilities will have to be divided, but Scotland may well be just as entitled to use the pound.

We became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in 1801 when the Parliaments of Great Britain and Ireland passed an Act of Union. Once Southern Ireland became independent in the first half of the 20th Century we became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

So, if Scotland goes Independent would we still be able to use Great Britain? If Northern Ireland go too, can we even call ourselves a United Kingdom? Wales might complain about not being mentioned anywhere in the name as in pre 1707 times but that technically might be the result, we just become England.

I wonder if this would mean we will lose our seat on the UN Security Council and the G7? Isn't Brexit great?

Lots of 'ifs' there.
 
Lots of 'ifs' there.

The only real 'if' is the common defence policy, but it's not a big if in terms of the stated close co-operation the SNP would like. The UK and France have co-operated before, in fact quite recently. We are part of NATO. The Clyde has the expertise and facilities.

The one big area of dissent is the Nuclear deterrent.

As for the other 'ifs', the currency one is the most problematical, but you can't ban somewhere from using it's own currency. 'Stirlingisation' is most definitely a possibility the same way other countries such as Panama use the dollar. If they are re-joining the EU, they would probably adopt the Euro anyway, it's the transitions that are tricky.
 
The only real 'if' is the common defence policy, but it's not a big if in terms of the stated close co-operation the SNP would like. The UK and France have co-operated before, in fact quite recently. We are part of NATO. The Clyde has the expertise and facilities.

The one big area of dissent is the Nuclear deterrent.

As for the other 'ifs', the currency one is the most problematical, but you can't ban somewhere from using it's own currency. 'Stirlingisation' is most definitely a possibility the same way other countries such as Panama use the dollar. If they are re-joining the EU, they would probably adopt the Euro anyway, it's the transitions that are tricky.

I am not trying to bull**** you. As someone who operates within the defence industry, I am just telling you how it currently is. I have no bias towards what could happen mate.
Should you chose not to believe the scenario or not, its entirely up to you.
 
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