Kobbie Mainoo

Barkley plays best further forward than Gallagher. That's England's stronget position. Barkley wouldn't get a look in there and Gallagher is better playing the deeper role. Neither of them are anywhere near Bellingham, Maddison or Foden who would play the 10.
 
Nano said:
Barkley plays best further forward than Gallagher. That's England's stronget position. Barkley wouldn't get a look in there and Gallagher is better playing the deeper role. Neither of them are anywhere near Bellingham, Maddison or Foden who would play the 10.
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He doesnt, maybe historically but not this season. Fernandez and Caicedo sit deeper for Cheslea, Gallgher plays in front of them mostly. Barkely has also been playing a deeper role for Luton this season.
 
Priv said:
Im with you on Gallagher, Gallagher has been okay but him playing so often is a major reason Cheslea are mid table for me. Hes a mid table player not european or premier league challenging player. A 6.5 out of 10 player most weeks, Hes scored a few recently which has improved his stats alot but when ever he plays against a good team domestically or internationally he generally looks out of his depth to me.
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I think Gallagher seems to be chasing shadows a lot of the time against good teams. He seems to almost get there but not quite and seems to be sliding on his ars* too much.
 
Nano said:
That isn't the difference. It's exactly the same situation. We could play Greenwood, Silvera, Crooks or Rogers.

If anything it should be the other way around. Make sure you have enough of the players in a specialist position and use all those other players to cover the 3 behind. There are about 10 players that play in those 3. You don't need 3 for each of those more similar positions.
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Greenwood, Silvera, Crooks and Rogers aren't really capable of playing as a striker effectively. Silvera has had a couple of decent games playing as a false 9 but that's it.

Bowen scored a hattrick in a game earlier in the season when he played as a striker and Rashford has been playing up front for Utd recently.

I'd rather have Boden and Rashford in the squad, who are both capable of playing in two positions effectively, rather than Toney who can only play as a striker.
 
parmoboy said:
Greenwood, Silvera, Crooks and Rogers aren't really capable of playing as a striker effectively. Silvera has had a couple of decent games playing as a false 9 but that's it.

Bowen scored a hattrick in a game earlier in the season when he played as a striker and Rashford has been playing up front for Utd recently.

I'd rather have Boden and Rashford in the squad, who are both capable of playing in two positions effectively, rather than Toney who can only play as a striker.
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They play completely different styles though to a specialist striker. Ideally you want your back-ups to be able to do what your 1st choice does or you have to change the whole team's way of playing.

There is also a huge difference between being able to do a job in some crappy friendly or having to rely on someone to do the job deep in a major tournament knock-out rounds. Bowen or Rashford would be useful in a squad for a league where not every game is against the top teams and you want to give your first choice a rest but in a knock-out competition you can't rely on someone to just do a job. You need the most effective because if that 1st choice striker isn't coming back from injury before the end of the tournament where games are getting harder, not easier, then you are only going to get so far.
 
Nano said:
They play completely different styles though to a specialist striker. Ideally you want your back-ups to be able to do what your 1st choice does or you have to change the whole team's way of playing.

There is also a huge difference between being able to do a job in some crappy friendly or having to rely on someone to do the job deep in a major tournament knock-out rounds. Bowen or Rashford would be useful in a squad for a league where not every game is against the top teams and you want to give your first choice a rest but in a knock-out competition you can't rely on someone to just do a job. You need the most effective because if that 1st choice striker isn't coming back from injury before the end of the tournament where games are getting harder, not easier, then you are only going to get so far.
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Fair enough, although you could make the argument that Kane and Watkins have two different styles.
 
parmoboy said:
Fair enough, although you could make the argument that Kane and Watkins have two different styles.
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Yes, you definitely can and Toney does as well. They all play more like traditional strikers though than Rashford or Bowen would and I think you could ask them all to do a specific job like hold the ball up, win headers from crosses, occupy a defender, defend set pieces etc which Rashford or Bowen couldn't.

Personally I don't rate Rashford so maybe I'm blinkered by that.

I tend to think that the spine of the team should be specialists and those players can do a job elsewhere rather than the other way around. A centre back can often play full-back but a full-back rarely plays centre back well. A midfielder can play wide but a wide player would never play centre mid etc. Forwards are a little bit different these days but I'm a traditionalist and I think a striker's main job is being on the end of chances and putting them away and someone who is a specialist at that should be doing that job.
 
BoroMart said:
That's some squad: Trafford, Rico Lewis, Harvey Elliot, Kobbie Manoo, Alex Scott, Noni Madueke, some players playing regularly at a very high level already. The next generation looks good.
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You'd fancy a few of them to make the step up to the senior squad eventually.
 
The other issue with Mainoo ( not sure if it’s been mentioned) but England aren’t his only option so getting him locked to England as soon as poss is key as well.

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The Ghana Football Association's pursuit of Kobbie Mainoo could be handed a huge boost following reports that the Manchester United midfielder is set for promotion to the U21s rather than the English national team.
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Mainoo would have got included before Henderson - esp for these 2 friendlies.

Henderson is just way past his best.

Barkley has been playing well & could well have been recalled, though watching highlights of Forest game yesterday & he looked slow & didn't cover back in clips I watched..

Toney is the best striker we have after Kane, needs to be in the squad, esp after Kane got an ankle knack at the weekend..
 
BobUpnDown said:
Mainoo would have got included before Henderson - esp for these 2 friendlies.

Henderson is just way past his best.

Barkley has been playing well & could well have been recalled, though watching highlights of Forest game yesterday & he looked slow & didn't cover back in clips I watched..

Toney is the best striker we have after Kane, needs to be in the squad, esp after Kane got an ankle knack at the weekend..
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Character and personality is important too and Toney comes across pretty badly. Without the attitude I’d defo pick him but it’s there
 
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