goalscrounger
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Depends what sector you work in. International schools are a different animal to your typical US school.Don't think I'd ever take a teaching job in America based on how little they seem to be valued over there.
Depends what sector you work in. International schools are a different animal to your typical US school.Don't think I'd ever take a teaching job in America based on how little they seem to be valued over there.
I am genuinely a believer that the experience of university learning/living is a good experience.I'm genuinely curious as to whether early study choices were suitable for the eventual career path and nothing to do with status and financial worth.
There is a part of me that questions whether doing a degree in teen years is always worth it and whether it would be better to get people in the workplace first and give them and opportunity to do a degree sitting alongside workplace learning in the early 20's would be better when they have a clearer idea of what they wish to do.
I feel the majority of degrees these days are to get you through the door when they should be making you suitable for the career instead.
Not how I would have put it. However similar to my views I think.I am genuinely a believer that the experience of university learning/living is a good experience.
Other than cost there is much I like about the US college system - I like the idea of continuing multi-subject learning (minor and major studies) and most vocational studies being post-graduate.
Obviously the issue with a system that values learning for learnings sake is that it is more difficult to justify the cost - which is why the US system can do it - because it is private. We should value as society having deep thinkers that value learning and sharing of best practice.
Not all US universities are private. Both my kids went to (very good) NY State universities without costing me a fortune as we were State residents.I am genuinely a believer that the experience of university learning/living is a good experience.
Other than cost there is much I like about the US college system - I like the idea of continuing multi-subject learning (minor and major studies) and most vocational studies being post-graduate.
Obviously the issue with a system that values learning for learnings sake is that it is more difficult to justify the cost - which is why the US system can do it - because it is private. We should value as society having deep thinkers that value learning and sharing of best practice.
Shhh, you might get me kicked out of the clique.You’re related to Rupert Murdoch?
I know its a stereotype, but you saying that made me laugh.I did a combined honours degree in English and American Studies at Birmingham Uni. Hated the English side (dull literature for the most part) but loved American Studies (great literature, fascinating history and culture).
Teesside always had a great reputation for Comp. Sci.I did comp sci, work as a software engineer now, so yes, the knowledge is relevant to my work. Never had to show my actual degree to anybody though.
Didn't realise many Teesside Uni comp sci alumni there was on here!
It seems like all of us!I did comp sci, work as a software engineer now, so yes, the knowledge is relevant to my work. Never had to show my actual degree to anybody though.
Didn't realise many Teesside Uni comp sci alumni there was on here!
From 1973 I was taught Basic. As part of studying O level Computer Science. I took the exam in 1975. I then took the A level in 1977. I think both of these courses relied on Teesside Poly for the technology.It seems like all of us!
Not possible for some industries, I agree a better balance needs to be found between academia and practical or trade skills, but if you think you could work your way up to 70k a year in 5 years in a white collar job with no degree you are very mistaken.I've never really understood it. Get a job or apprenticeship straight from school, start at the bottom and earn £70k+ in the five years it'd take to do Uni instead of getting into 70k's worth of debt, have 5 years experience and already be climbing the ladder rather than trying to find a job with next to no experience or life skills.
I have recruited literally hundreds of people in my time and I'd take someone aged 23 with 5 years actual work experience over someone with a degree every single time.
I don't mean 70k a year, that's what you would realistically earn in total (and probably more) in the first 5 years though, as opposed to getting into 70k worth of debt and coming out jobless.Not possible for some industries, I agree a better balance needs to be found between academia and practical or trade skills, but if you think you could work your way up to 70k a year in 5 years in a white collar job with no degree you are very mistaken.
A lot of white collar jobs are now asking for a masters for entry level positions!
Both have their place but a better balance needs to found.
Teesside always had a great reputation for Comp. Sci.