You can’t govern without a govt
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northernrower
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Unfortunately I don't think he will. Hope I'm wrong though.
Osboro
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Priti is an evil horror
Jedi boro
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Dissolution Principles
Background:
Prerogative powers are exercised by the Sovereign on the advice of his or her ministers, or by ministers on the Sovereign’s behalf. The powers that still can be exercised solely by the Sovereign are usually referred to as the ‘personal Prerogative powers’. These include the power to appoint and dismiss the Prime Minister and, prior to the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, included dissolution.
Since 2011, dissolution has been covered by the mechanics of the 2011 Act with only a residual set of conventions governing matters such as restrictions on government activity and the finalisation of Parliamentary business.
The Government is now proposing to repeal the 2011 Act and return to the pre-2011 status quo ante. Given the importance of the non-legislative principles that operate under the Prerogative powers, alongside the draft Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 (Repeal) Bill, the Government is publishing this draft statement of the non-legislative constitutional principles that apply to dissolution. The Government would welcome Parliament’s careful scrutiny of these principles.
The effect of repeal of the 2011 Act on the principles surrounding dissolution:
In restoring the pre-2011 Act position, the United Kingdom is returning to a position where the Prime Minister (by virtue of commanding the confidence of the House of Commons), can advise the Sovereign to dissolve Parliament at a time of their choosing.
The circumstances in which a Prime Minister might seek a dissolution are underpinned by two core constitutional principles:
- The Prime Minister holds that position by virtue of their ability to command the confidence of the House of Commons and will normally be the accepted leader of the political party that commands the majority of the House of Commons.
- The Sovereign should not be drawn into party politics, and it is the responsibility of those involved in the political process to ensure that remains the case. As the Crown’s principal adviser this responsibility falls particularly on the incumbent Prime Minister.
A return to the pre-2011 status quo ante will also restore the position whereby the Prime Minister, having lost a designated or explicit vote of confidence, can either resign or seek a dissolution, which would usually be granted and lead to an election.
The Sovereign, by convention, is informed by and acts upon the advice of the Prime Minister so long as the Government appears to have the confidence of the House, and the Prime Minister maintains support as the leader of that Government.
Background:
Prerogative powers are exercised by the Sovereign on the advice of his or her ministers, or by ministers on the Sovereign’s behalf. The powers that still can be exercised solely by the Sovereign are usually referred to as the ‘personal Prerogative powers’. These include the power to appoint and dismiss the Prime Minister and, prior to the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011, included dissolution.
Since 2011, dissolution has been covered by the mechanics of the 2011 Act with only a residual set of conventions governing matters such as restrictions on government activity and the finalisation of Parliamentary business.
The Government is now proposing to repeal the 2011 Act and return to the pre-2011 status quo ante. Given the importance of the non-legislative principles that operate under the Prerogative powers, alongside the draft Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 (Repeal) Bill, the Government is publishing this draft statement of the non-legislative constitutional principles that apply to dissolution. The Government would welcome Parliament’s careful scrutiny of these principles.
The effect of repeal of the 2011 Act on the principles surrounding dissolution:
In restoring the pre-2011 Act position, the United Kingdom is returning to a position where the Prime Minister (by virtue of commanding the confidence of the House of Commons), can advise the Sovereign to dissolve Parliament at a time of their choosing.
The circumstances in which a Prime Minister might seek a dissolution are underpinned by two core constitutional principles:
- The Prime Minister holds that position by virtue of their ability to command the confidence of the House of Commons and will normally be the accepted leader of the political party that commands the majority of the House of Commons.
- The Sovereign should not be drawn into party politics, and it is the responsibility of those involved in the political process to ensure that remains the case. As the Crown’s principal adviser this responsibility falls particularly on the incumbent Prime Minister.
A return to the pre-2011 status quo ante will also restore the position whereby the Prime Minister, having lost a designated or explicit vote of confidence, can either resign or seek a dissolution, which would usually be granted and lead to an election.
The Sovereign, by convention, is informed by and acts upon the advice of the Prime Minister so long as the Government appears to have the confidence of the House, and the Prime Minister maintains support as the leader of that Government.
FabioPorkpie
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Sky saying he’s not going to resign 
Ingleby_Flash
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He’s going to resign, 100%
The_Unicorn
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Meanwhile
JUST IN: #Iran Security Arrested several foreign nationals, among them British Deputy Ambassador Giles Whitaker on charges of ‘spying’ (Local media)
JUST IN: #Iran Security Arrested several foreign nationals, among them British Deputy Ambassador Giles Whitaker on charges of ‘spying’ (Local media)
FabioPorkpie
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John Craig has literally just said he told them no, I’m not going. Those present couldn’t believe it.
Ingleby_Flash
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You need a government to govern and he hasn’t got one. Gone by lunchtime tomorrow. Even the evil Priti has stuck the knife in.
TheYorkshireTerrier
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Next week, probably Tuesday
Ingleby_Flash
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Surely tomorrow- but if it is next week there’s no way even he could front out another PMQ.
Gone tomorrow.
ThePrisoner
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Nevertheless he is going to try and go ahead. Insanity.
It looks like they will just abolish a bunch of roles and call it 'efficiency'. This is entering the realms of the surreal. Then again, he is not called 'UK's Trump' for nothing.
Ingleby_Flash
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The Times “Johnson told ministers that he would not resign because he believes it would cause months of chaos and instability.”
surely someone in the room had the balls to stand up and scream in his face “we’ve had more than six months of chaos and instability with no sign of it getting any better you fücking cöck”
surely someone in the room had the balls to stand up and scream in his face “we’ve had more than six months of chaos and instability with no sign of it getting any better you fücking cöck”
Concrete Dreams
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That would take a spine, integrity and morals. Of course they wouldn't do that!
Let's remember, they are resigning now but they have accepted, and openly supported, him through the utter chaos of law breaking and dishonesty. All acts of self-positioning by immoral, self serving...
American_Mary
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This is the point he's that deluded he doesn't see he is the problem and not the solution, he doesn't recognise the chaos around him is ALL self-inflicted and down to his mismanagement, bad judgement and severe limitations in doing the job, his arrogance won't allow him to see the damage he is doing, it's never his fault when something goes wrong but he's always quick to offer self praise when things go adequately, a chancer, a shyster, a player but this isn't a game and he's so far out of his depth that there can be no coming back
ThePrisoner
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Someone get me more popcorn! Peter Bone is on Newsnight.
He's off his rocker
He's off his rocker