Will Starmer Sack Steve Reed?

On the sacking of RLB Starmer said: “I’m absolutely clear in my mind that it was the right thing to do, because I do not want the Labour Party and antisemitism to be in the same sentence ever again.”
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
On the sacking of RLB Starmer said: “I’m absolutely clear in my mind that it was the right thing to do, because I do not want the Labour Party and antisemitism to be in the same sentence ever again.”
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And by RLB not issuing an apology he thought it risked that
 
RLB created a huge media uproar because of her actions in response to anti-semitism accusations and did not do what she was told to do by her boss.

Steve Reed deleted and apologised when he found out Mr Desmond was Jewish and that his comments could be seen as anti-semitic.

If you are advocating sacking someone regardless of the meaning or intent of their actions, thats purely your opinion which doesn't imply anything to Keir Starmers stance on the subject.
 
1finny said:
Firk me BBG. A number of posters have told you the key difference.
Let it go man
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Why, RLB's post wasn't anti-Semitic and many Jews came to her defence. She agreed to tweet a clarification the wording of which the was OK'd by the leader's office, but then after she issued it they rejected it.
As for a lot of posters telling me the difference, a lot of posters didn't even know it was an anti-Semitic trope until the IHRA guidance was posted.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
Why, RLB's post wasn't anti-Semitic and many Jews came to her defence. She agreed to tweet a clarification the wording of which the was OK'd by the leader's office, but then after she issued it they rejected it.
As for a lot of posters telling me the difference, a lot of posters didn't even know it was an anti-Semitic trope until the IHRA guidance was posted.
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Are you aiming this as something genuinely to do with anti-semitism or that this shows RLB was sacked because it gave Keir Starmer a reason to "purge the left"?
 
Chris_Boro said:
Are you aiming this as something genuinely to do with anti-semitism or that this shows RLB was sacked because it gave Keir Starmer a reason to "purge the left"?
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He doesnt need a reason.
Its on his agenda.
Dont be surprised.
 
Chris_Boro said:
Are you aiming this as something genuinely to do with anti-semitism or that this shows RLB was sacked because it gave Keir Starmer a reason to "purge the left"?
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The purge of the left has been going on for a long time. Wadsworth and Walker were both kicked out of the party altogether for non anti-Semitism.
Chris Williamson was cleared of AS, reinstated and then kicked out again the next day for undisclosed reasons. To answer your question, Yes i do believe Starmer is also purging the left.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
The purge of the left has been going on for a long time. Wadsworth and Walker were both kicked out of the party altogether for non anti-Semitism.
Chris Williamson was cleared of AS, reinstated and then kicked out again the next day for undisclosed reasons. To answer your question, Yes i do believe Starmer is also purging the left.
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In that case as the differences between RLB's and Steve Reeds actions are demostratively clear, not sacking Steve Reed is the right thing to do.

As I said previously, if he did not delete and apologise and was not sacked you'd have a valid point on both counts.
 
Chris_Boro said:
Then why appoint RLB in the first place?
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At the Christmas Party you have to hold together a united front.
When spring comes the shears come out the shed and the pruning begins.

Classic "politicking" [that is a real word btw]
Appease your opponents whilst you settle in and wwed them out [for whatever reason and under whatever pretext].
Some call it a "reshuffle".
Politics is about making corruption and undermining democracy look respectable.

Im sure, like me, youve seen this process many times. I remember Harold Wilson was a master at disguising his own agenda and always getting his own way: he appointed tony Benn as Postmaster General and Minister for Technology, but their politics couldnt have been further apart.
 
Chris_Boro said:
In that case as the differences between RLB's and Steve Reeds actions are demostratively clear, not sacking Steve Reed is the right thing to do.

As I said previously, if he did not delete and apologise and was not sacked you'd have a valid point on both counts.
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Thats like saying I apologise for being anti-semitic but I am.
 
GazC_MFC said:
This is why labour will never win. If left won’t vote centre and the centre won’t vote left
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Well quite a group from the far left voted far right in the last election so. you can never know what will happen next in Politics.
 
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