Why is it as a club we continue to have the same issues and problems?

Maybe 15/20 years ago

a big reason for that is outside of a few teams, we were one of the few that would pay high wages for the time. People will come for the right money.

the problem is now we simply can’t compete with a bucket load of clubs now, financially. The game moved on and pretty much left Boro behind when it comes to the money clubs can pay for players. That’s why we have spent the last 12 years in the 2nd tier except one year.

even by Championship standards, we’re not making any real ambitious signings now. Just putting together a squad of ok players, hoping they might improve and see how it goes.

we can’t really attract good players anymore, we haven’t got the status or the dough. We’re just treading water as a club because we haven’t got the means to really push anymore. Too many clubs ahead of us these days.

That's true in one sense, but this myth that the area is one big toxic chemical factory is just baloney. Plenty of players signed for us from different ends of the country and beyond when we weren't splashing the big cash, then stayed on, starting families here.
 
That's true in one sense, but this myth that the area is one big toxic chemical factory is just baloney. Plenty of players signed for us from different ends of the country and beyond when we weren't splashing the big cash, then stayed on, starting families here.
Indeed

I don’t believe the area is why we can’t attract good players. We could when we were a decent side that could pay for them. That’s really the top and bottom of it.
 
Indeed

I don’t believe the area is why we can’t attract good players. We could when we were a decent side that could pay for them. That’s really the top and bottom of it.

Yes, totally. I was just responding to a couple of posts which seemed to think the place is inhabitable to anyone outside of the Teesside Demarcation Zone.

We need to cut our cloth accordingly and sign good, young, hungry players a la Brentford, sell them on and do the same. It doesn't do Ajax any harm!

That's clearly why Scott's been brought in. Maybe our best signing in decades!!
 
We got a good point on Sunday and will probably beat Bristol City on Saturday. He picked a scratch side last night and paid the price. It’s just football.
 
My point is, it’s fine lines isn’t it. Payero might be the man to make the difference 8, 9, 10 times and that might get us up/into the playoffs. We are one or two good players away from being in contention, IMO. This is the same as most teams in the division. Probably in football, outside the Super League types. Not everything requires a post mortem.
 
You could argue it is the whole of Northern football (apart from the obvious exceptions) that is in the doldrums really. The leagues seem a lot more southern centric than they used to. This may not be born out by facts, just feels like that to me.

Forest, Derby, Shef Wed, Sunderland, Bolton and us (I'm sure I've missed a few) all used to be regular top flight clubs.

I do think more young players would want to live around a bigger vibrant city, agin, just a feeling I get.
 
I agree with the opening poster.
Frustration is definitely the name of the game.
But is it something to do with modern football tactics being so boring?
The very best teams excepted it's a slug-fest with packed midfields and goals coming from errors.
Take a look at other teams message boards and you'll find similar levels of frustration.

Maybe time is clouding my memory.
But it used to feel that teams set up to win a bit more and then go out hammer & tongs to achieve it?

Partly I blame the money - business is business - it has become a serious financial 'game' rather than a sporting pastime
 
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