Villa bid for Morgan Rogers

LaPennaBianca said:
When young players are looking at clubs to join they will see that we don't stand in the way when a bigger club comes calling.

It's how Brighton operate.
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It isn't though. Brighton do stand in the way when a bigger club comes calling, they literally did exactly that with Caicedo when Chelsea first came calling and wouldn't budge until the Summer window rolled around and Chelsea were forced to cough up £100m. Seems to paint this idea that Brighton just lovingly roll over when a player wants to go when the reality is they negotiate just as hard as any other club. And they made Chelsea pay about £30-40m more than Cucurella should have cost. Brighton's approach isn't "sign a good young player, and then sell him so he can have a nice, lovely career". They play hard ball unless it suits them to sell I.E. Sanchez, and Trossard who De Zerbi didn't want. They're just better at identifying talent and acting quickly before they can be beaten to these players.

"Showcasing" that we can develop players only really matters to clubs looking to loan players out. It only helps actually sign a player if you're the best club trying to sign that player which is to say, it's basically irrelevant. Trying to portray ourselves as a club that will just step aside and let you go as soon as anyone better comes along is the last thing we should
want to do, and we're already soft as f*ck in the transfer market half the time as it is, basically gift wrap everyone we sell where other clubs would, and do, hold out for more.
 
InglebyUTB said:
It would show a total lack of ambition from the club to sell him 6 months into a 4 year contract.

You don’t develop a player for 6 months and sell him at the first offer. You don’t see other clubs who are chasing promotion or play-offs selling talent off. Sunderland have had multiple offers for Clarke but held firm.

Talk of us getting £10m is laughable, it would be more like £6m.

Tell Villa to come back in the summer.
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At last someone gets it yes that’s my point.

Selling now shows we are basically there for the taking.

Brighton and Brentford played hard ball
 
Muttley said:
It's where we are as a club right now. If a PL club comes in with the right amount we'd sell the tea lady.
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Is that the alternative option?
In that case I think we should sell Edna.
We probably wouldn't get as much money but she would be easier to replace.
 
The Card Cheat said:
Do you think there's the slightest chance that one of the most successful managers in the game at the moment Unai Emery and his team of scouts might know what they're doing?
Look at the stats, Rogers has created far more chances per game than Ramsey did. Whether he's quicker or not is debatable, but I feel he's stronger running at people than Ramsey.
Ramsey was a very good for us, but I do think at times we lionise a player who only played 11 games for us, during a time when the team was incredibly dominant.
Mind you, if Rogers goes, we might just get another look at Ramsey!
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What he has done is wasted a lot more chances then Ramsey some of his decision making is very poor plus Ramsey had a much better first touch definitely not as quick as Ramsey yes he stronger can run at people but mostly runs into trouble
 
Scrug said:
Everyone got your point. It's ridiculous to sell a player so early, but if we make a profit and the player wants to go, it's going to happen.
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But surely this fee will only go one way if villa are so desperate.

Selling now makes us look weak and is a dangerous precedent
 
Jedi boro said:
But surely this fee will only go one way if villa are so desperate.

Selling now makes us look weak and is a dangerous precedent
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We are weak though in comparison to the bigger sides. If we were in the Prem and this bid came in we'd laugh it off, but we're not, so we can't.

I fully get where you're coming from, but this is the reality now and whilst disappointing, it wouldn't be the end of the world.
 
Wonder what our valuation is and if Villa will come back?

Sounds like Rogers would be open to the move, and couldn’t blame him, but he’s only been here 6 months. Would have to be silly money for us to accept I think which I don’t think Villa can do at the minute.
 
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