VAR - Rugby vs Football

RedAsABeetroot

RedAsABeetroot

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Enjoyed watching Exeter vs Quins today. Decision went to video referee right at the end the outcome of which decided the match. Having watched all angles ref says "I'm not seeing any clear evidence so I'm sticking with my on field decision".
Are rugby refrees more confident in their own abilities, do football referees feel that they'll be criticised for making a decision once VAR has intervened, or does it just operate differently?
 
The big difference is you can hear the “working out on rugby” as the conversation between the TMO and the ref is audible. Plus the tmo is there to check for positions that the ref wants reviewing he is not there to ref the game for him.
 
Rugby is far superior to football in the use of video technology. The Television Match Official (TMO) has been established for many years and works very well (although hasn't been beyond controversy at times). It probably does help that rugby union is a more structured game than football with natural stops and starts due to the rules of the game. That means the TMO has time to look at any infringements and will talk with the Referee and Assistants constantly.
 
Nero said:
Rugby is far superior to football in the use of video technology. The Television Match Official (TMO) has been established for many years and works very well (although hasn't been beyond controversy at times). It probably does help that rugby union is a more structured game than football with natural stops and starts due to the rules of the game. That means the TMO has time to look at any infringements and will talk with the Referee and Assistants constantly.
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I'd agree and also add that in rugby they play advantage for far longer than in football where it's a few seconds at best.
 
I think with off-sides they should take cricket's approach with the "Umpire's Call" in an LBW decision.

They could put the line across the pitch for the defender like they do now.
They could then have a band across which covers say 300mm either side of that line that is shaded out.
If the attackers line falls outside the band, they would show the line and this would be enough to overturn the on field decision if it was incorrect.
If the attackers line is within the band, they should stick with the on-field decision. I.e. too close to overturn.

I feel like it would speed up the process and do the job that it was initially brought in to do. Which was to prevent howlers.
 
B_G said:
I think with off-sides they should take cricket's approach with the "Umpire's Call" in an LBW decision.

They could put the line across the pitch for the defender like they do now.
They could then have a band across which covers say 300mm either side of that line that is shaded out.
If the attackers line falls outside the band, they would show the line and this would be enough to overturn the on field decision if it was incorrect.
If the attackers line is within the band, they should stick with the on-field decision. I.e. too close to overturn.

I feel like it would speed up the process and do the job that it was initially brought in to do. Which was to prevent howlers.
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They should already do this because how do you prove which frame of the footage the ball was actually played. They are looking at such fine margins that a frame either way could change the decision.
 
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For offside, imho, it should be judged on position of feet only & with a margin of error, on screen overlay, in favour of attackers..

VAR in football lags way behind other sports, esp in the time taken to make decision: Clear error.. is the key & VAR seem to be trying to get decisions to the mm which is wrong..

They also get obvious decisions wrong, which really doesn't help..
 
The problem with ‘clear’ is
One person’s ‘clear’ is another person’s ‘fog’

Nothing will solve VAR - all it does is move the contentious decisions away from the ref.
 
1finny said:
The problem with ‘clear’ is
One person’s ‘clear’ is another person’s ‘fog’

Nothing will solve VAR - all it does is move the contentious decisions away from the ref.
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Exactly this. The ref said he had no clear evidence that the pass in the build up was forward but other referees may have seen that differently. It did look fractionally forward
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
Enjoyed watching Exeter vs Quins today. Decision went to video referee right at the end the outcome of which decided the match. Having watched all angles ref says "I'm not seeing any clear evidence so I'm sticking with my on field decision".
Are rugby refrees more confident in their own abilities, do football referees feel that they'll be criticised for making a decision once VAR has intervened, or does it just operate differently?
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I’m not biased at all, but it didn’t work in this specific case 😔
 
Zoophonic said:
Some great games by the way in the Premiership this weekend. That Exeter v Quinns game was one but the ending to the Saracens v Gloucester match was equally fabulous

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That was horrible - Saracens winning in any circumstances irritates me, but that 😡
 
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