Vaping

[Nano]

I think it's fairly obvious that vaping is better than cigarettes in a like for like scenario.

The issue arises from people starting vaping that wouldn't have started smoking cigarettes, especially if in future years we find out that vaping isn't harmless.

Around my age group (late 30s) smokers were already a minority and being seen smoking was no longer cool. It seemed like smoking would become a thing of the past over time. I remember the smoking ban and how much better it was once you stopped stinking of smoke just because you had been in a pub/club. When I go out now I see far more young people vaping than would have been smoking. It's impossible to say whether that demographic would have started smoking cigarettes if vaping wasn't an option anyway. Things go in cycles so if young people thought it was cool again then usage would have risen again.

 

[Malaguena]

The youth culture around it was all but non existent with traditional cigarettes but now vaping is seen as cool and acceptable now

This is a big and massively valid point

 

[Littlefella68]

Switched to vaping / ecigs ten years ago. If I kept smoking I'd be dead or have serious health issues now.

I suspect that burnt coils or letting the wick run dry and burning/overheating are the main risk factor with vapes.

 

[Loop]

Rotten habit and it looks pathetic.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

Question for all Vapers would you Vape in front of a baby or young child, or people with obvious health issues, or anyone who extremely old? If not why?

I'd blow my vape in their face. Just to **** off all the whiney hypocrites who moan about vapes all the time.

 

[weemoby]

I've been vaping for more than 10 years. I'm not a scientist but will try and answer any questions you may have about the habit from a personal standpoint.

Have "They come for your uncool niece"?

 

[Jedi boro]

Why?

I'm going to take a guess. You don't like people vaping.
You are not concerned with peoples health you just don't like people vaping therefore you want to see it restricted/banned.

No as above they are clearly aimed at kids so why the need to have such supply chains and flavours.

 

[BobUpnDown]

Problem will be the unregulated, untested & unaccountable crap vape that seems to be esp targeted at the young.

Older people - though I know many that go for the unregulated vape products - may be trying to quit smoking & buy tested & certified vape products.

Many of the unregulated products may turn out to be worse than the cancer causing smoking & it will be young that will be affected in years to come.

Just as cigarettes were advertised as 'healthy' & good for you...

When Cigarette Companies Used Doctors to Push Smoking | HISTORY

Before studies showed that cigarettes caused cancer, tobacco companies recruited the medical community for their ads.

www.history.com

 

[Jedi boro]

Problem will be the unregulated, untested & unaccountable crap vape that seems to be esp targeted at the young.

Older people - though I know many that go for the unregulated vape products - may be trying to quit smoking & buy tested & certified vape products.

Many of the unregulated products may turn out to be worse than the cancer causing smoking & it will be young that will be affected in years to come.

Just as cigarettes were advertised as 'healthy' & good for you...

When Cigarette Companies Used Doctors to Push Smoking | HISTORY

Before studies showed that cigarettes caused cancer, tobacco companies recruited the medical community for their ads.

www.history.com

Exactly hence the chemist only one flavour regulation. Unlike the Wild West we have now.

 

[GibbosEmpire]

People vape more than they ever smoked though, you can do it pretty much anywhere

 

[Laughing]

Problem will be the unregulated, untested & unaccountable crap vape that seems to be esp targeted at the young.

Older people - though I know many that go for the unregulated vape products - may be trying to quit smoking & buy tested & certified vape products.

Many of the unregulated products may turn out to be worse than the cancer causing smoking & it will be young that will be affected in years to come.

Just as cigarettes were advertised as 'healthy' & good for you...

When Cigarette Companies Used Doctors to Push Smoking | HISTORY

Before studies showed that cigarettes caused cancer, tobacco companies recruited the medical community for their ads.

www.history.com

There is so much nonsense in this post I wouldn't know where to start.

Let's try this. Any evidence that unregulated vape products are worse than cigarettes?

Any evidence that unregulated Vapes are the choice of young people?

What is the medical difference between the vegetable fats used in unregulated products?

 

[Laughing]

Exactly hence the chemist only one flavour regulation. Unlike the Wild West we have now.

Exactly, really? You got any evidence Jedi?

 

[Jedi boro]

Any evidence that unregulated Vapes are the choice of young people?

We yes quite a lot actually.

 

[Jedi boro]

Shopkeeper hid secret stash of dodgy tabs and illegal vapes under cupboard floor

Eston Daily has now been closed for three months under crime and anti-social behaviour laws

www.gazettelive.co.uk

 

[Jedi boro]

Dead rat found in shop selling illegal vapes and alcohol to children

A closure order against Boro 24 was made for the protection of the public, but could be reviewed

www.gazettelive.co.uk

 

[Jedi boro]

Newsagents where £15k illegal vapes hidden ordered to shut again

An application to Teesside Magistrates' Court highlighted that the criminal behaviour was likely to continue

www.gazettelive.co.uk

 

[Laughing]

Dear me Jedi. You call that evidence? It's evidence that some shop keepers sell illegal vapes. It is not evicence that they are the choice of young people.

Admit it, as someone said above you don't like vaping and you want to see it ended because of your personal choice. It's fine to hold that point of view, just be honest about it instead of hiding behind nonsense. Not to mention you haven't adressed a single other point I have arised.

 

[Jedi boro]

Dear me Jedi. You call that evidence? It's evidence that some shop keepers sell illegal vapes. It is not evicence that they are the choice of young people.

Admit it, as someone said above you don't like vaping and you want to see it ended because of your personal choice. It's fine to hold that point of view, just be honest about it instead of hiding behind nonsense. Not to mention you haven't adressed a single other point I have arised.

You honestly don’t think vapes are aimed at kids ??

Really

So bright pink vapes flavoured candy floss sugar plum unicorn flavour is aimed at adults then ?

 

[GibbosEmpire]

I mean not vaping, is better than vaping.

 

[1finny]

The vape brands are out to make £££s - the way to do that is to increase demand.
The marketing trend of vapes - colour schemes, names etc is clearly marketed at young teens.

I’ve no idea whether they are good for you or not but the aim is to attract vapers as early as they can.