If the big nobs got round a table, let’s say Russia, Ukraine and mediators and Ukraine agreed to allow the Donbas to be subsumed into Russia provided all those who saw themselves as Ukrainian were allowed to move to western Ukraine before the border was re-drawn and agreement was reached that Ukraine would not join NATO and in exchange Russia would not be aggressive against it further…..would that end it? I am not clued up on the history of the region but if the Donbas sees itself as Russian-ish rather than Ukrainian (which it presumably does as there’s been an ‘independence’ war there for several years, then why not let them join Russia and end the bloodshed now.