Trump defends lad charged with murder.

Mr Holgate said:
I haven't seen that report. Where's that from?
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I'm not posting the video's for obvious reasons, but they are not that hard to find.

He's initially stood being filmed when he spots victim 1 throwing rocks at a window, he then confronts him. Some altercation happens and the victim throws something at the shooter while chasing him away, while running, the shooter turns and shoots the victim multiple times.

He's then seen checking on him between two cars as another person tries to apply first aid, he then phones someone while running away shouting "I just killed someone".

He's then chased by the crowd.
 
Chris_Boro said:
I'm not posting the video's for obvious reasons, but they are not that hard to find.

He's initially stood being filmed when he spots victim 1 throwing rocks at a window, he then confronts him. Some altercation happens and the victim throws something at the shooter while chasing him away, while running, the shooter turns and shoots the victim multiple times.

He's then seen checking on him between two cars as another person tries to apply first aid, he then phones someone while running away shouting "I just killed someone".

He's then chased by the crowd.
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The only version I can find is him being chased, falling to the floor and getting kicked in the face before he fires.
So he fired at another and was then chased?
 
Trump is a con artist, the last election it was about the need for a wall to stop caravans of marauding “rapists and drug dealers” it’s not been built where are the caravans? His latest con is the “radical left” threat, many will buy what I think the Americans call a grift. This young lad bought into it, as a consequence two people are dead a third one seriously injured and his life probably over before it’s begun. Trump is not a conservative in the traditional sense of the word, he is a narcissist, all that matters to him is himself.

I am sure he has no regard for the effect he has on individual lives or the corrosive effect on society in general. He is a disaster in office.
How America even partially embraced him after his disgraceful comments about Senator John McCann I still find difficult to comprehend even after four years of seeing his open misconduct in office.

He took an oath to uphold and protect the constitution what a sick joke that was.
 
Mr Holgate said:
The only version I can find is him being chased, falling to the floor and getting kicked in the face before he fires.
So he fired at another and was then chased?
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He killed the first victim, then ran away after realising that he did. He was chased by the crowd where he then got knocked over and he shot the person trying to take his gun.

Only in the USA could any of this be defended. There's other videos prior where he walks up to groups of people who berate him for carring an assualt rifle.
 
Angus said:
Trump is a con artist, the last election it was about the need for a wall to stop caravans of marauding “rapists and drug dealers” it’s not been built where are the caravans? His latest con is the “radical left” threat, many will buy what I think the Americans call a grift. This young lad bought into it, as a consequence two people are dead a third one seriously injured and his life probably over before it’s begun. Trump is not a conservative in the traditional sense of the word, he is a narcissist, all that matters to him is himself.

I am sure he has no regard for the effect he has on individual lives or the corrosive effect on society in general. He is a disaster in office.
How America even partially embraced him after his disgraceful comments about Senator John McCann I still find difficult to comprehend even after four years of seeing his open misconduct in office.

He took an oath to uphold and protect the constitution what a sick joke that was.
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He’s a sociopath

I agree about sen mcain as he’s still slagging him off now even those he’s been dead 3 years. Yes that shocked me as well.
 
jam69 said:
The far right and the far left are not as bad as each other, one lot don't go around murdering innocent people.
Take a look at this country when was the last time the far left murdered a MP or plotted to decapitate another? Or drove a truck into a crowd of people?[/QUOTE
I think you need to look at a global historical perspective. The far left have killed millions. I've never understood how communism is still defended. Both extremes are evil and will kill you albeit for slightly different reasons.
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jam69 said:
The far right and the far left are not as bad as each other, one lot don't go around murdering innocent people.
Take a look at this country when was the last time the far left murdered a MP or plotted to decapitate another? Or drove a truck into a crowd of people?
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The far left don't go around murdering people !!! Have you no knowledge of history whatsoever ? It was only just over 20 years ago Pol Pot was imprisoned.
 
Your confusing history with current affairs.
You know exactly what iam talking about , the rise in far right activities in both here and the USA, thats why I didnt bring up the nazi party despite some of the perpetrators recently imprisoned.
 

That’s some stretch to start bringing in historic things like that and communism.

I imagine there will be some far left nutters about but for the most part given the choice of an armed far right and an armed far left person, I know which is rather be around. (Other than neither).
 
jam69 said:
The far right and the far left are not as bad as each other, one lot don't go around murdering innocent people.
Take a look at this country when was the last time the far left murdered a MP or plotted to decapitate another? Or drove a truck into a crowd of people?
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Whataboutery is increasingly the only defence they have for the actions of some pretty disgusting people whose views they sympathise with.

That's the problem with a lot of people in this country and America. They know things like racism are wrong, but still hold some of those views. They can't really defend it so instead resort to accusing the "other side" of being just as bad as if that somehow makes the views of people like Trump "ok".
 
Not sure the facts matter.
The response depends on how the media frame the event and the political stance of those viewing.
Had the lad been black and wearing a BLM t shirt what would the headlines/ reaction have been?
It's a tragedy which ever way you view it.
 
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