Tony Blair on Radio 4 this morning

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HarryVegas

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Anyone else hear it? This isn't the cue for Tory apologists to bring up the Iraq war - I didn't agree with it either and he lost me at that point.

But hearing an intelligent adult talking about the covid crisis and the options going forward in terms of government strategy made me realise just how far we have fallen. He wasn't there banging the drum against the current lot, or in favour of Labour. He was just talking about management, leadership and strategy in time of crisis, and the difference between what I heard from him and what we hear from the current lot was massive.

The interviewer tried to draw him into slagging them off but he wasn't getting into that. Was reasonable and talked like an adult, treating the listener like an adult too. Just talked in some depth about where we are, some of the pitfalls we've hit and future options. God, I wish there was an adult in Downing Street who knew - or even cared - something about leadership.
 
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Anyone else hear it? This isn't the cue for Tory apologists to bring up the Iraq war - I didn't agree with it either and he lost me at that point.

But hearing an intelligent adult talking about the covid crisis and the options going forward in terms of government strategy made me realise just how far we have fallen. He wasn't there banging the drum against the current lot, or in favour of Labour. He was just talking about management, leadership and strategy in time of crisis, and the difference between what I heard from him and what we hear from the current lot was massive.

The interviewer tried to draw him into slagging them off but he wasn't getting into that. Was reasonable and talked like an adult, treating the listener like an adult too. Just talked in some depth about where we are, some of the pitfalls we've hit and future options. God, I wish there was an adult in Downing Street who knew - or even cared - something about leadership.
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Good politician, sadly allowed himself to be led astray by an idiot, who in hindsight looks like a measured, articulate fella.
 
festa5 said:
Didn't hear it but doesn't surprise me. Talks a lot of sense on most things. Shame he's a bit of a nob.

Of course the current lot aren't doing his reputation any harm. The Blair government look more impressive by the day.
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He’s a ****.
 
Best prime minister in my lifetime. Shame some of the Labour party don't appreciate his electoral success. I remember the state of schools and hospitals after 18 years of Tory cuts, we will be back there by the end of this lot too. He did whatever any PM would have done with Iraq, Tories all voted in favour, should have persuaded Bush to plan post war reconstruction.
 
I read his autobiography. I thought it was balanced and he tried to give reasons for the Iraq war , again whether they were correct is another issue.
 
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Talks a lot of sense, trouble is like everything else that comes out of his mouth, it’s probably all lies.
 
As I said at the start, I seriously disagreed with him about the war and still do now. That's not the point of this thread. On this issue he's talking realistically and seriously about a serious issue, without slinging mud. Given the gravity of the present situation in the UK, not to mention the massive brexit crash we're about to descend into, it's an absolute tragedy that nobody in power is doing the same thing. I don't particularly want him back in Downing Street - that's never going to happen anyway - but I do want a serious leader in there.
 
I think one thing that is forgotten is that a sitting, or potential politician, has everything scrutinised and judged and so they have to be overly-careful to the point that they basically just avoid having a genuine conversation. They all come across as incompetent idiots but whenever I see one on something talking about things that aren't to do with politics they seem like normal, reasonable people. Some of the long-serving ones with nothing left to gain/lose can seem reasonable at times but the majority of them are far more comfortable attacking each other than just having a proper discussion.

Part of that is our fault, or at least the media's fault because that has been their game for a long time. It would be nice if we could allow them more freedom to talk things through, make mistakes and be honest about them without calling everything a scandal and demanding a sacking. Cross-party as well preferably. Far more could be achieved by finding something that everyone is happy about instead of politics just being a game between two sides permanently trying to catch each other out.
 
I like to see Blair popping up. It's nice to see that not only the Tory Party has crap politicians. As for war criminals, well.
 
boromike85 said:
I think one thing that is forgotten is that a sitting, or potential politician, has everything scrutinised and judged and so they have to be overly-careful to the point that they basically just avoid having a genuine conversation. They all come across as incompetent idiots but whenever I see one on something talking about things that aren't to do with politics they seem like normal, reasonable people. Some of the long-serving ones with nothing left to gain/lose can seem reasonable at times but the majority of them are far more comfortable attacking each other than just having a proper discussion.

Part of that is our fault, or at least the media's fault because that has been their game for a long time. It would be nice if we could allow them more freedom to talk things through, make mistakes and be honest about them without calling everything a scandal and demanding a sacking. Cross-party as well preferably. Far more could be achieved by finding something that everyone is happy about instead of politics just being a game between two sides permanently trying to catch each other out.
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I seriously doubt Johnson will ever come across as a normal, reasonable, person.
 
He was on 5live a few weeks ago discussing the exact same thing. I can't remember the hosts name but she is very annoying. He spoke very well and reminded me of what a great leader sounds like.

I think he runs a "workshop" or management consultantancy for leaders. She brought it up and kept asking if Boris had signed up. Like I said, she was annoying and also tried to drag him into a slagging match which he avoided well.
 
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