To our muslim brothers and sisters

We deal with a car dealer network with outlets from Morocco to Afghanistan and north to Azerbaijan, going to be a quiet week.
 
Laughing said:
I did read many years ago that halal slaughter is much more humane than conventional slaughtering. No idea if it's true or not.

You could equally aim the same criticism at Christians at Christmas time.
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Get your point and agree its valid as some are Christians, I reckon its a majority of atheists and agnostics celebrating a modern Christmas myself.

Eid Mubarak by the way 👍
 
Laughing said:
I did read many years ago that halal slaughter is much more humane than conventional slaughtering. No idea if it's true or not.

You could equally aim the same criticism at Christians at Christmas time.
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Nah, non-stun slaughter is a vile, disgusting and inhumane practice, in the name of religion. There is no place for it in modern society.

There is no justification for the level of pain and suffering it causes.
 
uncle_rico said:
Nah, non-stun slaughter is a vile, disgusting and inhumane practice, in the name of religion. There is no place for it in modern society.

There is no justification for the level of pain and suffering it causes.
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I agree non stun slaughter is vile, the trouble is we assume our slaughter houses are humane. The story about racehorses this week shows they are badly run in some areas at least. Just because there are rules does not mean they are followed sadly. Our system is not always ‘humane‘ either.
 
coluka said:
I agree non stun slaughter is vile, the trouble is we assume our slaughter houses are humane. The story about racehorses this week shows they are badly run in some areas at least. Just because there are rules does not mean they are followed sadly. Our system is not always ‘humane‘ either.
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No Col, you’re entirely correct they’re not. The whole slaughter industry in the UK is horrendously bad, and really poorly regulated.

That still does not justify non-stun slaughter.

The panorama that was on last night regarding the horse racing and horse meat industry should have been headline news today, but it’s barely been mentioned.
 
uncle_rico said:
No Col, you’re entirely correct they’re not. The whole slaughter industry in the UK is horrendously bad, and really poorly regulated.

That still does not justify non-stun slaughter.

The panorama that was on last night regarding the horse racing and horse meat industry should have been headline news today, but it’s barely been mentioned.
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I am a lover of the sport and have defended it strongly on here, but given events in Ireland and the UK of late, I am saddened and questioning myself. I hoped the Gordon Elliott and Rob James issues were one offs, sadly it is looking much worse than i thought now ☹️
 
uncle_rico said:
Nah, non-stun slaughter is a vile, disgusting and inhumane practice, in the name of religion. There is no place for it in modern society.

There is no justification for the level of pain and suffering it causes.
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Firstly there is no justification for the way animals are transported to or slaughtered in the uk period.

Secondly a vast number of animals slaughtered in the uk are stunned first halal or not. Halal doesn't mean not stunned.

There is a wider issue here though and it isn't halal v conventional slaughter methods its animal welfare generally.
 
As mentioned halal meat doesn't necessarily mean non-stunned. According to the RSPCA 58% of halal meat is stunned.

I'm a vegetarian, with animal welfare being one of the reasons - but ffs doesn't mean you have to be a d*ck about it, this was about wishing our muslim friends well. Eid mubarak (y)
 
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