Time now for AJ to stop running and Finally face fury

I dont question his boxing ability I question his management and how they are controlling him. That Saudi farce summed them up for me.
 
Zorro I’ve yet to see you address the fact AJ has a better record of opponent than Fury or Wilder. Please do so.
 
zorro_mfc said:
Look at his joke fight in the us his big stateside debut..... that he lost was that s credible opponent or the farcical rematch in Saudi again another farce.

somebody summed it up earlier AJ is a product.
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So you have maintained your anti Hearn crusade for the new board then zorro.

Being a fan of one fighter doesnt mean you have to hate the rest. Im a fan of boxing and particularly British boxing. I cheered Fury on last night, i will cheer AJ on in his next fight and if they fight each other, may the best man win. You won't though, you will look for ways to stick a knife into Hearn or Joshua no matter how well they do.

Thats your free choice though. A bit childish for my taste but each to their own.
 
dooderooni said:
I called him a product because he's in an age when marketing and sport exist hand in hand zorro. I never at any point questioned his boxing ability.
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And don't forget that Fury got involved with the WWE recently. That's 100% about making money and exploiting his image so he's just selling his product in a different way.
Oh and that was in Saudi Arabia as well for good measure.
 
Not at all I just want to see the best fight the best, but your right I don’t like Hearn son or father.
I guess time will tell who’s right though.
 
dooderooni said:
And don't forget that Fury got involved with the WWE recently. That's 100% about making money and exploiting his image so he's just selling his product in a different way.
Oh and that was in Saudi Arabia as well for good measure.
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Tbf that’s fury all over he’s an eccentric look at his bat man press conference.
 
Zorro, time will tell? Answer the question for goodness sake. Why do you pretend AJ is avoiding people? Be honest, who has fought the better opposition between AJ, Fury and Wilder?

You’re a good poster but on this point you’re showing yourself up as a petulant anti-Hearn child for whatever reasons they may be.

AJ has fought better people overall than any of his peers. End of.
 
WeeGord said:
Zorro, time will tell? Answer the question for goodness sake. Why do you pretend AJ is avoiding people? Be honest, who has fought the better opposition between AJ, Fury and Wilder?

You’re a good poster but on this point you’re showing yourself up as a petulant anti-Hearn child for whatever reasons they may be.

AJ has fought better people overall than any of his peers. End of.
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As I said I just want to see the best fight the best.
 
But it’s a moot point as let’s not forget fury was basically gone for almost three years so any comparison of record is meaningless. The fact is fury has fought the best in their own back yard and won. He beat klischko he ended the iron grip that he had on the heavy weight division.
AJ is good no doubt about that as yes he also beat a now damaged on the wane klitchko, but as yet he hasn’t gone toe to toe with a big us name in his back yard and performed like Tyson has.
hopefully one day we will get to see who really is the best.
 
WeeGord said:
I bet I could Google plenty of articles showing Wilder and Fury we’re running scared of AJ. It proves nothing.

Facts, however, show that AJ has the best record and fought the bigger names than Fury or Wilder.
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I don't think he has a better record, not anymore. Fury fought a younger version of Klitschko and beat him in much better fashion and has 2x wins vs Wilder who is better than anyone else on AJ's record. Lets not forget that AJ lost against Ruiz.
 
It depends how you look at it

Fury beat a better version of klitchsko than aj did.

Povetkin past his best at 39 too

Parker was a world champ I’ll give you that, but I doubt we will see Parker on the world stage so he was in a false position, bit like Martin

Whyte is a top 5 fighter so he does have him on his resume

It’s a poor division on reflection haha
 
GazC_MFC said:
It depends how you look at it

Fury beat a better version of klitchsko than aj did.

Povetkin past his best at 39 too

Parker was a world champ I’ll give you that, but I doubt we will see Parker on the world stage so he was in a false position, bit like Martin

Whyte is a top 5 fighter so he does have him on his resume

It’s a poor division on reflection haha
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Parker was, and is, infinitely better than Charles Martin. Equally, Povetkon is still a live and very dangerous opponent for anyone.

Fury beats AJ I agree, but let’s be fair about the whole thing. Joshua has been in with and beaten better opponents than Wilder certainly, and there’s quite a strong argument that he’s been in with and beaten better than Fury too.
 
zorro_mfc said:
Look at his joke fight in the us his big stateside debut..... that he lost was that s credible opponent or the farcical rematch in Saudi again another farce.

somebody summed it up earlier AJ is a product.
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Not sure I understand what you mean. The performance against Ruiz wasn’t good, but he was lined up against the unbeaten WBO ranked no 2 contender originally and it only became Ruiz when Millar failed a drug test, didn’t it? It’s not like Ruiz was a mug as a replacement either. Then having lost I don’t see going straight for a rematch as somehow not courageous. If he’d lost again it would have been career over.
 
The rematch should have been in Mexico Ruiz won he was the champion a true test would have been in Mexico.
 
Eddie Hearn posted sumat before the first AJ - Ruiz fight.

After 23 fights AJ had fought 7 unbeaten opponents, Wilder 3 and Fury 4.

After 23 fights, AJ had fought 4 Olympians, Wilder and Fury hadn’t fought any.

After 23 fights AJ had fought 4 world champions, Wilder hadn’t fought any, Fury had fought 1.

After 23 fights AJ had fought 8 world title fights, Wilder and Fury hadn’t fought any.

Zorro, by all means feel free to say Fury Beats Wilder, but too accuse Joshua of ducking fights is just silly.
 
zorro_mfc said:
Fury “won” his first fight v wilder and now no one can argue that he won the second as well in an incredible victory on US soil. Fury will take some stopping as once again he has shown he has the heart of a lion and the will of a champion. What an incredible come back.

So, AJ over to you, let’s have No more ego boosting money fights against mid range opposition, no more spin from hearne about how AJ is the real deal.

As yet again Fury has shown that he will go anywhere and fight anyone and win and until AJ does the same then no one can dispute now that Tyson Fury is the best boxer in the world and he will take some stopping.
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Hasn't Joshua fought the most top 10 fighters in the division? I think throwing the "mid range" opponents at him is a bit unfair.
 
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