* The Unofficial "Official" Boro v Southampton Match-Day Thread "

r00fie1

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Its that time again >>>>>>
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Every game is a crunch game for the boys at the moment. We could have and should have won - given the second half display - against Sheffield Wednesday on Tuesday night. Isaiah Jones said a point away from home wasnt [normally] a bad result. "Stick with us" was his message. "we are still a young team". By that, I think he meant, not just physically in terms of age, but in terms of collective maturity and as a team.
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[Isaiah Jones: "Stick with us"]

Carrick acknowledged that confidence and results go together. He`s the first to admit results rest on his shoulders. Hes the first to admit its his job to get the best out of the boys and put points on the board. But he isnt naive and we shouldnt forget his own professional experience as a player for England, Manchester United, Tottenham and West Ham. He`s experienced teams and individual players enduring dips in confidence, going on losing runs and being knocked out of competitions by teams from lower leagues. He knows what its like to experience anxiety and physical set backs in a players career - starting with his own issues at United. Carrick accepts confidence is a huge issue in effecting the way a team performs:

Can you coach confidence?

Confidence comes from an element of success. That can be small gains throughout the game. That can be little games. That can be put [ting] in challenges. That can be a successful pass, or a successful dribble or whatever kind of little detail within the game. You can gain confidence quite quickly through little actions. But of course the big success is going ahead in games, winning games, scoring goals…..that ultimately gives you that next level. You can gain a positive boost of energy and certain positive things from all the little things that go on through the game. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to build that and you know, this year, you`ve got to work hard and do the simple things well…...until ultimately you get the success. Its not click your fingers and everything`s fantastic again. You got to go about it, accept it and do something about it. Sometimes it takes a bit of time and you`ve got to work through it.


That boost in confidence was no more evident than on Tuesday at Hillsborough: It cant be denied, but it was a well below-par performance in the first half. We looked like we`de hardly played together and at times we made Wednesday look "OK". But Lenihan`s second - half goal turned a switch. The team started moving the ball around. The ball was being moved up front and we were getting more clear cut chances. Josh Coburn for one was more mobile. Jonesy added that zip which we needed and it was like the kick up the backside we had been asking for.

It is a sign of progress when the fans came away ruing our missed opportunity to put the game to bed and get that all important first win under our belts. We looked like we were going to do it. It seems odd praising the team for getting the second of two points this season. but every step is a step in the right direction.


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Carrick believes getting the right blend and mixture of experience is really important right now. Did he need a "solid" first eleven? Did he need to adapt the style of play? The implication from the reporter being that he doesnt know his best team and insists on playing a certain "style" or "system". A point was made that Southampton Manager, Russell Martin, plays the possession game and Carrick was asked if that was "interesting"? [It has to be noted The Saints have conceded 17 goals - the worst in the Championship and sit 13th in the table]. Carrick had this to say:

I just think that you can play football in so many different ways [smile]. The thing about this division is there`s a whole raft of styles throughout…...different ends of the league, so its not necessarily a certain style that proves to be successful. You can do it in different ways So, in terms of styles, I think its pretty clear …..the style [Southampton] their Manager likes and sticks with. Hes obviously a good coach, because they`ve got a clear identity. [His] beliefs show through his team. It`l be a good test for us. We feel we`re a good team in putting the performance together….so that`s our focus really.

Today, we want the lads to have that self belief and confidence - to bring home the bacon. Easier said than done. There`s a lot of "white noise" out there at the moment - from fans, reporters, self-appointed "pundits" and commentators. Like Carrick pointed out

"........ things come a lot easier for everybody when things are going well. That [includes] me, the players, the supporters - the club as a whole."

We know its painful watching the team under-performing at the moment, but this is when we all need to pull together. Carrick is no fool and probably knows more about pressure than many other Managers put together. But that doesnt win games and "its a results business". Carrick claims his mood and that of the players hasnt changed "around the place". He still has faith and belief. He still works to instill the right attitude, mentality and application in the players. He is around the players the whole week, not just on a Satda or a Tuesda night.

Perhaps the most significant question about the squad - and the answer [which was unambiguous] came from a particular reporter:

"Do you still have belief in the quality you`ve got now?".

Carrick looked straight at him and replied: "One hundred percent".

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There was a pause and a silence in the room - which felt like an age.
He clearly believes we have what it takes.


Come On Boro!



* Full transcript can be found here:
 
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STATS:
Boro v Southampton Record:

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Championship Form:

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Championship Table:

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Last Time Out - Southampton:

Tuesday 19th September
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Lost 1-0 at home to Ipswich with a 30 minute goal from Omari Hutchinson.
Saints possession: 59%
Shots: 13
Shots on target: 3
Formation: 4 - 3 - 3
 
Russell Martin - A Manager Under Pressure ?

Southampton's Martin says he'll 'adapt' but was hired for a reason​

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MANAGER Russell Martin will “flex and adapt” his tactics but insists Saints have employed him to help guide a specific direction and will see it through.
The 37 year old, hired by new director of football Jason Wilcox, has been identified to develop an attractive possession-based football model, with Martin insisting human connection is at the heart of it.

Martin comes into the club off the back of years of hurt, which eventually resulted in relegation from the Premier League, while knowing promotion is the ultimate ambition.

Saints have been beaten three times in succession in the Championship after an unbeaten start to the campaign with the pressure now ramping up.
Martin takes his Saints side to Middlesbrough with the confidence to keep the club moving in one direction despite a shock run of results.

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[Saints arent finding the transition from the Premier League to the Championship easy]

“I’m not passing excuse because we need to work to find a way through it but there’s been a lack of cohesion at this club,” the former Swansea City boss said.

“There’s been a lack of togetherness with the supporters, a lack of connection here at the training ground – and our job is to bring it back.

“I’m doing it while implementing a different style and a completely different way of behaving, so I’m hoping now we can find a connection by being really honest with you and with the players.

“We need to build energy and momentum. Ipswich have that and it’s carrying them through to a really good place, we don’t have that but we will find it.

“People will see a team that is functioning well and when we find that rhythm, people will start to trust the work we’re doing and the players trust it because they can feel it.”

Martin continued: “Out of anxiety, at the moment the players feel they need to run around and do more. In some moments, less is more.

“It’s our job to help them understand that. I’m excited about what is to come, you find out so much about people and yourself in these moments.

“It’s such a long season and we’re only seven games in, We’re going to tweak, adapt, learn and try new things but we’ve been brought here for a reason.

“It’s to give the club something to really buy into, to energise everyone and to bring people together. I want supporters to enjoy watching their team.

“They probably haven’t for the last three games and I understand that. Also to understand what it takes and the mentality and courage it takes to play this way. ‘

“It’s up to us to give the supporters more moments than we have done to build that connection and togetherness and we will because it’s what we did at the last two clubs we were at.

“We will flex and adapt but without losing what the club really wants to be. The club have embarked on a journey now with loads of new people.
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[Talk of owners "being great" always sends an element of doubt down the spine of most football fans....]

“The owners and directors have been great. The club have made a decision to go this way and we have to see it through, it’s pointless going one way and then another.

“The club has decided this is the way we’re going to go. They’ve employed a young manager and a young group to develop the group in a certain way.

“They understood there will be some really sticky moments but when you see it through and ride through this moment it will be brilliant.”

[https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23806314.southamptons-martin-says-adapt-hired-reason/]
 
That's the fun at the moment. Even a boro fan who watches them week in week out can't guess the team and has no idea what formation they are going to play when the team does come out. Think how much the opposition will struggle
 
Defence aside, which is a nightmare to look at every match we have, I don't hate the rest of the team. Would maybe prefer someone a bit more mobile in Crooks position but otherwise I'm fine with most of it.

Full back though, a horrorshow. I continue to be baffled as to why we didn't seem to even try to sign a right back.
 
On the bright side. I am currently melting in 38 degree heat in turkey. We are the main championship so should be plenty of streams for those that can't get to the riverside.
 
That's the fun at the moment. Even a boro fan who watches them week in week out can't guess the team and has no idea what formation they are going to play when the team does come out. Think how much the opposition will struggle
We're starting with 3 centre backs, 5 centre midfielders, 1 winger and 1 striker.
 
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