The inventor of mRNA vaccine technology....

FabioPorkpie said:
Excellent post which, in a nutshell, shows how these con artists operate, misrepresenting available data to paint an untrue picture to push an agenda. They rely on the fact a tiny minority will actually follow up research. Most will see their video and take it as read, and then forward it on.
Meanwhile Brett Weinstein gets attention and followers and subscribers to his channel. And money. Con artists feed of conspiracy, because conspiracy breeds attention breeds clicks breeds income.
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Much like Hancock, Whitty, Valance all have shares in pharmaceutical companies developing vaccines. 😉
 
smogontherhine said:
Thanks for this link, I did read the report that was acquired under FOIA (at least the part that was not in Japanese)... I didn't know it was already out there... Will check your link.

I'm pretty sure we were told repeatedly that the lipids did not migrate from the injection site when clearly they do and we have no data on what the consequences of this are.
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I thought they had to drain via the lymphatic system to deliver their pay load. One explantation here
 
boringblock_21 said:
I watched from 2hr16, the section about bio distribution of lipid nanoparticle components after vaccination.

To summarize what I saw - COVID vaccines use a variety of lipids to help deliver mRNA to cells. The video shows data compiled from Pfizer examines the concentration of lipids in animals up to 48 hours after they receive a COVID vaccination. The data shows that the concentration of these lipids increases significantly in many tissues, including the bone marrow and ovaries, after vaccination. It is incredibly important to understand that these data come from experiments conducted in rats and mice, and the animals received up to 500x the weight matched dose that humans receive. Despite this, no toxicity was observed. You can read the findings for yourself of course, because none of this was really kept a secret. The European medicines association published this (https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/docume...omirnaty-epar-public-assessment-report_en.pdf) back in February.
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So I have seen extracts of this report before, the most striking things in it are....

“No traditional pharmacokinetic or biodistribution studies have been performed with the vaccine candidate BNT162b2."

...they used a substitute, and...

“Biodistribution: Several literature reports indicate that LNP-formulated RNAs can distribute rather nonspecifically to several organs such as spleen, heart, kidney, lung and brain. In line with this, results from the newly transmitted study 185350, indicate a broader biodistribution pattern.”
 
smogontherhine said:
Yes, but not the brain, the bone marrow and the ovaries amongst others
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So we clearly weren't told they didn't migrate.

I am not a rat receiving five hundred injections in a day.

I spent most of my career in polymer technology. The product I worked, which is used to contain food products, led to rats getting tumours when fed the human equivalent of 600kg of the product.
 
Randy said:
Much like Hancock, Whitty, Valance all have shares in pharmaceutical companies developing vaccines. 😉
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Is it really such a stretch that successful scientists and health professionals in the top roles in their respective industry have shares in companies? I mean, most successful wealthy people have broad share portfolios. Now if Vallance and Whitty ONLY had shares in one company, and that company just happened to produce covid vaccines then fair enough, maybe the conspiracy theorists would have a point and they did actually cook up this whole global pandemic thing as a ruse for personal financial gain ………..but…….well……..you know….

Of all the daft points that the Facebook covidiot crowd make, it’s that the CMO and CSA happen to have shares in big pharma companies.
I mean, which wealthy people who dabble in the stock market on planet Earth don’t???
 
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boringblock_21 said:
I watched from 2hr16, the section about bio distribution of lipid nanoparticle components after vaccination.

To summarize what I saw - COVID vaccines use a variety of lipids to help deliver mRNA to cells. The video shows data compiled from Pfizer examines the concentration of lipids in animals up to 48 hours after they receive a COVID vaccination. The data shows that the concentration of these lipids increases significantly in many tissues, including the bone marrow and ovaries, after vaccination. It is incredibly important to understand that these data come from experiments conducted in rats and mice, and the animals received up to 500x the weight matched dose that humans receive. Despite this, no toxicity was observed. You can read the findings for yourself of course, because none of this was really kept a secret. The European medicines association published this (https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/docume...omirnaty-epar-public-assessment-report_en.pdf) back in February.
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I start to see some differences in the Japanese FOIA data and the older EMA data, there are numbers in the Japanese doc that give more of an idea of how much of the lipids made it to various organs.

Also I seem to remember that although they didn't find any toxicity they did not look for genotoxicity at all which sounds strange for a product that itself is mRNA.

I'll be clear here, I'm not anti-vaccine, I've been vaccinated but I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of vaccinating kids, my own in particular.

Genuine question to all of you... would you have a teenage daughter of yours vaccinated knowing that some of the lipids will possibly drain to the ovaries ?
 
smogontherhine said:
I start to see some differences in the Japanese FOIA data and the older EMA data, there are numbers in the Japanese doc that give more of an idea of how much of the lipids made it to various organs.

Also I seem to remember that although they didn't find any toxicity they did not look for genotoxicity at all which sounds strange for a product that itself is mRNA.

I'll be clear here, I'm not anti-vaccine, I've been vaccinated but I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of vaccinating kids, my own in particular.

Genuine question to all of you... would you have a teenage daughter of yours vaccinated knowing that some of the lipids will possibly drain to the ovaries ?
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Do you know where every lipid you eat every day ends up?
 
smogontherhine said:
This is eactly the kind of conflation that is blinding everyone... of course not.
I bet there are (or at least were) a fair few kids that were not happy that their mother took thalidomide when they were in the womb.
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Again with the thalidomide red herring? Thalidomide was introduced in an era when extensive human testing of drugs was not the norm and is in fact, one of the main reasons why the modern regime of 3-phase clinical trials was established in the first place.
 
Randy said:
Much like Hancock, Whitty, Valance all have shares in pharmaceutical companies developing vaccines. 😉
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So do I, in any stock portfolio you'd be mental not to hold pharmer shares. I went in a bit bigger at the start of the pandemic but the return has been underwhelming. Mainly down to the fact that companies aren't actually making that much profit from covid-19 vaccinations as they're not being sold with big profit margins.
 
brain_in_a_jar said:
So do I, in any stock portfolio you'd be mental not to hold pharmer shares. I went in a bit bigger at the start of the pandemic but the return has been underwhelming. Mainly down to the fact that companies aren't actually making that much profit from covid-19 vaccinations as they're not being sold with big profit margins.
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Not yet anyways. As soon as the pandemic is declared over then that's when the money starts rolling in. Can't blame them actually.
 
Randy said:
Not yet anyways. As soon as the pandemic is declared over then that's when the money starts rolling in. Can't blame them actually.
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I'm not as confident, pharmer shares always provide steady returns rather than spectacular ones and I haven't seen anything since the development of vaccines that suggests to me that is likely to change. Think a lot of investors thought it would be easy money but it hasn't been the reality. I'll still hold them and hope for the best but I'd have been better going harder in tech than pharmer during the pandemic.
 
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