The end?

TeessideCleveland said:
Not sure if this is significant - or if they'll just get booted out again - but the invaders seem to have taken most of Soledar


www.bbc.co.uk

Conflicting claims over embattled Ukraine town - BBC News

Russia's Wagner mercenaries claim to be in control - but Kyiv says its troops are still holding out.
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My understanding is Soledar is a bit tougher to defend because it sits in a bit of a valley, so attackers have high ground advantage. Prioritising loss of life over ground is probably more important for Ukraine. Important not to lose too much more ground because of supply routes mind you.
 
Lefty said:
My understanding is Soledar is a bit tougher to defend because it sits in a bit of a valley, so attackers have high ground advantage. Prioritising loss of life over ground is probably more important for Ukraine. Important not to lose too much more ground because of supply routes mind you.
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They have bigger fish to fry.
 
Dreadnaught said:
Far right Nazi's can be found anywhere pick a town you will find them your argument goes out of the window because they are not usually a large part of the countries armed forces as in Ukraine. There is an organised event happening soon if I was not working I would have attended this below .

I have seen a bit of Clare Daily speaking at the EU she makes a lot of sense


Anti Nato Rally
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I'm not quite sure what your game is if I'm honest. You seem somewhat entrenched in your anti-NATO, anti-US views and are a supporter of Russia in all of this. If you want to see images of mutilated, raped, tortured bodies that are a result of Russian soldiers they are out there sadly. It's real. Like a previous poster I am generally very sceptical of US foreign policy and for my money it has in many cases been disastrous in recent decades.

However, NATO are a defensive organisation and if they were the aggressor the collective force of the NATO countries could obliterate Russia though we too of course would be turned to dust. There is a reason why Moscow isn't being attacked by weapons, why millions of Moscovites aren't living under perpetual fear. It's becase NATO are not the bad guy here.

Russia are the invaders, Russia are the aggressors and they are the ones holding the world under the threat of nuclear weapons not NATO.

I just really don't understand your position on this at all.
 
Dreadnaught said:
Wee Gord I have no game I have explained my thoughts this is as serious as it gets this lady here below has it for me .

some one speaking sense
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So you're posting links, ignoring the points I and others have made whilst defending these Russian scum to the hilt.

Please answer me:-

* Who are the invaders?
* Which armed forces have been torturing, raping, murdering locals?
* Which is the only country in the world whose leader is frequently using thinly-veiled nuclear threats?
* Which country has been interfering in elections in the US and a referendum in the UK?
 
zzzzz said:
Not sure why you're all feeding the troll tbh
And not sure how he's still here......
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I thought it important we give him (or her) a platform. It allowed us to see just how weak these pro-Russian arguments are.
Initially, I thought it might be a new and interesting contributor, with an orthodox standpoint. However, the failure to answer any questions and the recycling of Russian propaganda means the poster is not genuine.
First ever on my ‘ignore list’.
 
TeessideCleveland said:
But if the invaders are so weak how are they taking anything at all?
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These are Wagnerite forces. Maybe Prigozhin sees a value in the salt mine. The Ukrainians are less fussed and rather than get bogged down there, they are concentrating efforts elsewhere with far more strategic significance.
 
It was interesting that one of his final posts had odd punctuation and absolutely no capital letters other than the R in Russian.
 
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