The Ashes - TEST 2

Billy Horner said:
To be honest, I'm not really surprised that a former professional cricketer doesn't really get the spirit of cricket thing. You could tell that on the chummy Sky Sports coverage on Sunday, with the public school quartet of Ian Ward, Michael Atherton, Nasser Hussain and Andrew Strauss all agreeing with each other that, because it was within the laws of the game, it was a perfectly fair dismissal, and trying to work out what all the plebs were complaining about.

The thing I don't understand about them is if, instead of being stumped, Bairstow had been the victim of a Mankad, I can guarantee that they would all having been going nuts about it, despite that also being within the laws of the game. The appear to view that as being the equivalent of spitting in someone's face, but everything else is fair game apparently.

My personal view (and not to deflect from the Aussies' responsibility here) is that the bowler's end umpire messed up massively here. It doesn't matter if he'd called over or not, there are six balls in an over and the ball becomes dead at some point after each of them, not just at the end of the over. As the umpire was looking and reaching for the bowler's cap when the incident happened, it's clear that he thought the ball was dead and that is his decision to make under the laws of the game. If he'd just stood his ground and called dead ball, we wouldn't all still be talking about this.
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The thing that got on my nerves about all their comments was even if they agreed with it at least try and give some stick to the Aussies for doing it because I’m fairly certain had it been the other way round the Aussie commentators would have stuck in to us for doing it even if they dug their own team out as well.

I’ve really not like Sky’s commentary this time around and I know sounds pathetic but they just aren’t pro England enough, at least on TMS they let the likes of McGrath and Maxwell talk about Australia but then take great delight every time England take a wicket or something goes against the Aussies,
 
MolteniArcore said:
Maybe those that have played the game at the highest level understand the rules and the spirit of the game better than us lot sat typing on a message board?
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There is a difference between knowing the rules and the spirit of the game. Would you like it if we scored a goal after the opposing team kicked the ball out for an injury and we didn't return it to them?
 
MolteniArcore said:
There are plenty of examples where English players have acted in an up sporting fashion. We obviously don’t like it up us because we all sound like spoiled children crying because Bairstow was given out when he was out.

Time to move on.

@Andy_W He mentioned Broad cos he was crying about how that’s all Carey will be remembered for. It didn’t surprise him though as he says Broad is a bit of a t*t.
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Oh I agree, we've done some bad stuff (not as much as Aussies mind), but I would always try and look at each thing individually on its merit.

I just think it's **** trying to get someone out when they're blatantly not trying to run or play a shot, even more so at the end of an over. Sure Bairstow made a bit of a mistake, by the letter of the law, but it's really really low by the Aussies going through with the appeal. I don't actually blame cary for throwing and appealing, as a good point was made this morning on the commentary, it's just instinct and that's fine. But Aussies, Umps and our batsmen should have got together for a chat, and had some time to reflect on the full scenario. I think Aussies would have rescinded in this case, but understand why some Aussies are trying to back up their corner now, as they kind of have to as they didn't rescind.

I'm more miffed about the uncalled short bowling, for both sides, which Aussies benefitted from most, as they had two goes of it.

Time to move on agreed, but there has been some good talking points.

On to test 3 :)
 
Andy_W said:
Oh I agree, we've done some bad stuff (not as much as Aussies mind), but I would always try and look at each thing individually on its merit.

I just think it's **** trying to get someone out when they're blatantly not trying to run or play a shot, even more so at the end of an over. Sure Bairstow made a bit of a mistake, by the letter of the law, but it's really really low by the Aussies going through with the appeal. I don't actually blame cary for throwing and appealing, as a good point was made this morning on the commentary, it's just instinct and that's fine. But Aussies, Umps and our batsmen should have got together for a chat, and had some time to reflect on the full scenario. I think Aussies would have rescinded in this case, but understand why some Aussies are trying to back up their corner now, as they kind of have to as they didn't rescind.

I'm more miffed about the uncalled short bowling, for both sides, which Aussies benefitted from most, as they had two goes of it.

Time to move on agreed, but there has been some good talking points.

On to test 3 :)
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Exactly this.
 
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