Colin Warnek
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Stoke and Sheff Utd fans must think about that season in a similar way. Although if I remember Stoke won the League Cup around then too.
spot on!gue Division One table after close of play on 26 April 1975
Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GAvg GD Pts 1 Derby County 42 21 11 10 67 49 1.367 18 53 2 Liverpool 42 20 11 11 60 39 1.538 21 51 3 Ipswich Town 42 23 5 14 66 44 1.500 22 51 4 Everton 42 16 18 8 56 42 1.333 14 50 5 Stoke City 42 17 15 10 64 48 1.333 16 49 6 Middlesbrough 42 18 12 12 54 40 1.350 14 48 7 Sheffield United 41 18 12 11 58 51 1.137 7 48 8 Manchester City 42 18 10 14 54 54 1.000 0 46 9 Leeds United 41 16 13 12 55 45 1.222 10 45 10 Burnley 42 17 11 14 68 67 1.015 1 45 11 Queens Park Rangers 42 16 10 16 54 54 1.000 0 42 12 Wolverhampton Wanderers 42 14 11 17 57 54 1.056 3 39 13 Coventry City 42 12 15 15 51 62 0.823 -11 39 14 Newcastle United 42 15 9 18 59 72 0.819 -13 39 15 Arsenal 41 13 11 17 47 48 0.979 -1 37 16 West Ham United 41 12 13 16 57 59 0.966 -2 37 17 Birmingham City 41 14 8 19 53 61 0.869 -8 36 18 Leicester City 42 12 12 18 46 60 0.767 -14 36 19 Luton Town 42 11 11 20 47 65 0.723 -18 33 20 Chelsea 42 9 15 18 42 72 0.583 -30 33 21 Tottenham Hotspur 41 12 8 21 48 61 0.787 -13 32 22 Carlisle United 42 12 5 25 43 59 0.729 -16 29
As you can see from the table pretty close.
If Bobby Murdoch and Big John were a few years younger then who knows
We were a Paul Mariner or a David Cross away from being top of the shop
Jack has admitted not buying that season was a huge mistake.
What a time to be a Boro supporter 94 onwards had big investment
73 onwards came out of nowhere after decades of under acheivement with Jackadding Bobby Murdoch to Stan Andersons team.
We were truly a force in English football!
Me too! So glad I was there - the season before was my first Season Ticket and what a season it was. As you say, it all seemed so normal at the time but being young, I didn't appreciate how special it was.I don't know how many of you felt this, but I never appreciated how good we really were until years after. It just seemed to happen, burn bright then slowly fade. I'm so glad I was old enough to see that side.
Didn't finishing 7th result in a small team getting to a European final?I knew someone would come on and rubbish this thread. Thanks for that rifle. As people pointed out, we were challenging for the title and fell away at the end. Which is exactly what happened if you were actually there.
And since we did 7th become mid table?!
Sorry Dave I was fast forwarding a few yearsonly one team in european cup then so no
Didn't finishing 7th result in a small team getting to a European final?
I think it's a common reaction of the young to have zero interest in something that seems like ancient history to them. They did not experience it and so it means nothing to them and they dont want to have to listen to a bunch of old farts droning on about the good old days. I remember at the time my Dad being very cynical about the boro and going on about Clough, Mannion amd Hardwick. He might as well have been talking about the Henry VIII and the dissolution of the monasteries for all the relevance it had to me. In the same way, when I was a kid, the second world war was definitely in black and white but in reality it was only twenty years earlier. In contrast that great boro team and season was 45 years ago and yet it still seems so vivid to me now.Exactly! Strange that our own fans seem to take pleasure in knocking the fact that 74-75 was an incredible season. It's far and away the best season I've known in all my years of following Boro.
I think it's a common reaction of the young to have zero interest in something that seems like ancient history to them. They did not experience it and so it means nothing to them and they dont want to have to listen to a bunch of old farts droning on about the good old days. I remember at the time my Dad being very cynical about the boro and going on about Clough, Mannion amd Hardwick. He might as well have been talking about the Henry VIII and the dissolution of the monasteries for all the relevance it had to me. In the same way, when I was a kid, the second world war was definitely in black and white but in reality it was only twenty years earlier. In contrast that great boro team and season was 45 years ago and yet it still seems so vivid to me now.
I can agree with that, though not happy with the 'old fart',I think it's a common reaction of the young to have zero interest in something that seems like ancient history to them. They did not experience it and so it means nothing to them and they dont want to have to listen to a bunch of old farts droning on about the good old days. I remember at the time my Dad being very cynical about the boro and going on about Clough, Mannion amd Hardwick. He might as well have been talking about the Henry VIII and the dissolution of the monasteries for all the relevance it had to me. In the same way, when I was a kid, the second world war was definitely in black and white but in reality it was only twenty years earlier. In contrast that great boro team and season was 45 years ago and yet it still seems so vivid to me now.
Sqd | Player | From | Position | A | S | G | P | Y | R |
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David Armstrong |
| Midfielder | 53 | 0 | 7 | 1 | |||
Stuart Boam | Defender/Centre back | 53 | 0 | 1 | |||||
Peter Brine | Midfielder | 4 | 6 | ||||||
Harry Charlton | Midfielder | 3 | 0 | ||||||
Terry Cooper | Defender | 9 | 0 | ||||||
John Craggs | Defender/Right-back | 51 | 0 | 1 | |||||
Peter Creamer | Defender | 1 | 0 | ||||||
Alan Foggon | Midfielder/Forward | 52 | 0 | 18 | |||||
John Hickton | Forward | 50 | 0 | 11 | 4 | ||||
Willie Maddren | Defender/Centre-back | 53 | 0 | 3 | |||||
Tony McAndrew | Defender | 1 | 0 | ||||||
David Mills | Forward | 45 | 0 | 11 | |||||
Bobby Murdoch | Midfielder | 47 | 0 | ||||||
Tom Paterson | Forward | 1 | 0 | ||||||
Jim Platt | Goalkeeper | 53 | 0 | - | - | ||||
Malcolm Smith | Forward | 6 | 7 | 2 | |||||
Graeme Souness | Midfielder | 47 | 0 | 7 | |||||
Frank Spraggon | Defender | 41 | 0 | ||||||
Brian Taylor | Central defender | 4 | 5 | ||||||
Alan Willey | Forward | 9 | 12 | 3 | |||||
Billy Woof | Forward | 0 | 1 | ||||||
Pat Cuff | Goalkeeper | - | - | ||||||
Own Goal |
Behave. 7th isn’t “mid table” and 5 points off top isn’t significant notwithstanding the 2 pts for win. And if we had beaten Derby as we should have done (we gifted them the late equaliser) that gap would have only been 3 points off top.We finished 7th, basically mid table, so it’s a load of nonsense we were close to winning the league. The point gap in between the top side and Boro was quite significant in the era of two points per win.
Behave. 7th isn’t “mid table” and 5 points off top isn’t significant notwithstanding the 2 pts for win. And if we had beaten Derby as we should have done (we gifted them the late equaliser) that gap would have only been 3 points off top.
Yes they were. So it’s “fair” gap now not “significant”. And 6 points above 11th is “closer to mid table” than 5 pts off top? Right.
Let’s agree to differ.