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I was using it in the he’s moving on sense

it’s a difficult place for him to be as they will obviously favour Charles as he’s staying.
 
He’s a great British sportsman. We should all be proud of him

not particularly a massive fan of his, but by the end of his career you could make the claim he is the greatest British sports person of all time, yes he has had the car but to dominate a sport for so many years is incredible. Would love to see him win a championship for a third team before he retires.
 
not particularly a massive fan of his, but by the end of his career you could make the claim he is the greatest British sports person of all time, yes he has had the car but to dominate a sport for so many years is incredible. Would love to see him win a championship for a third team before he retires.
The "best car" argument is the most trite, ridiculous comment and I hear it a lot iwht people trying to lessen Lewis' incredible achievements. To explain: The reason he is given the best legal car (I still maintain last years pre investigation Ferrari was better) is because he's the best driver and teams know that. Secondly Valteri ALSO has the best car but he's not a 6 times world champion
 
over Leclerc actually giving them a home victory for the first time in god knows how many years.

And cheating by pushing Hamilton wide but not getting the normal 5 second penalty, the cop out black and white flag to prevent a riot.

I hate how penalties are at the discretion of local marshalls, Verstappen pushing LeClerc wide at Austria last year was more blatant and worse than Vettel in Canada, no penalty.

Albon pushed Hamilton out wide on turn 4 last week, not refereed to the stewards as Hamilton saw there was no room so backed out.

Albon barged through at Suzuka last year pushing Norris out at the chicane, no referral to stewards no penalty.

Ferrari unsafe release form a pitstop at Hockenheim last year, they got a fine afterwards, Redbull unsafe release at Monaco, Verstappen gets a time penalty.

It is this inconsistent approach that makes it so annoying and drives fans mad.

If the driving incident is a rules infringement then they should be punished, regardless of whether the other car involved gets spun or DNF's, and the punishment should always be the same. Not used as a fans appeasement, or to spice up the results or to favour a team with a red car.
 
I hate how penalties are at the discretion of local marshalls, Verstappen pushing LeClerc wide at Austria last year was more blatant and worse than Vettel in Canada, no penalty.

Albon pushed Hamilton out wide on turn 4 last week, not refereed to the stewards as Hamilton saw there was no room so backed out.


If the driving incident is a rules infringement then they should be punished, regardless of whether the other car involved gets spun or DNF's, and the punishment should always be the same. Not used as a fans appeasement, or to spice up the results or to favour a team with a red car.
I agree with you about the stewards, not sure why it isn't the same team every week, but there was a significant difference between Albon on Hamilton on lap 1, where front of Hamilton's car had only got as far as rear wheels of Albon and Hamilton on Albon later where Albon was in front of Hamilton with only his rear wheels overlapping - Hamilton really was the one who had to concede or leave room in both cases as he was the car behind.

Hamilton was supreme this week and bar the drivers diving in for new tyres with 2 laps to go, would have got the fastest lap as well.

There didn't seem to be any gear box problems this week either, so hopefully that is sorted.

Is the DAS just for warming tyres after safety cars / formation lap or will they use it in a racing situation?
 
there was a significant difference between Albon on Hamilton on lap 1, where front of Hamilton's car had only got as far as rear wheels of Albon and Hamilton on Albon later where Albon was in front of Hamilton with only his rear wheels overlapping

Is the DAS just for warming tyres after safety cars / formation lap or will they use it in a racing situation?

I agree mate mate, but they are judging on the outcome not the offence really, it's always difficult as drivers aren't ever going to want to concede position. I'd be willing to bet if Albon had touched Hamilton whilst squeezing him and spun him off, it would have gone to the stewards, and a penalty may well have been given (although, again another inconsistency, they are much more lenient in the first two laps when everyone is jockeying for position).

The stewards thing is a puzzler as they are always local FIA affiliated guys I believe, so in Austria more than likely Austrian / German whatever, UK, British but obviously the international flavour of motor-sport means this isn't nailed on. There does seems to be a heavily biased towards team / nationality or in some cases avoiding controversy leaning towards most decisions though. They fly so much other stuff around the world with the 'F1 circus' I don't see having the same three race officials being too much more burden.

Oh and while we're on the bias in decision making subject, ex team principles shouldn't be heading the FIA, and especially investigations into his previous teams power unit that are then swept under the carpet with no penalty when it is evident that the 'new' car is almost a second a lap slower than the one that set 7 straight poles last season. It stinks.
 
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And cheating by pushing Hamilton wide but not getting the normal 5 second penalty, the cop out black and white flag to prevent a riot.

I hate how penalties are at the discretion of local marshalls, Verstappen pushing LeClerc wide at Austria last year was more blatant and worse than Vettel in Canada, no penalty.

Albon pushed Hamilton out wide on turn 4 last week, not refereed to the stewards as Hamilton saw there was no room so backed out.

Albon barged through at Suzuka last year pushing Norris out at the chicane, no referral to stewards no penalty.

Ferrari unsafe release form a pitstop at Hockenheim last year, they got a fine afterwards, Redbull unsafe release at Monaco, Verstappen gets a time penalty.

It is this inconsistent approach that makes it so annoying and drives fans mad.

If the driving incident is a rules infringement then they should be punished, regardless of whether the other car involved gets spun or DNF's, and the punishment should always be the same. Not used as a fans appeasement, or to spice up the results or to favour a team with a red car.
As much as I enjoy F1, I much prefer touring cars. Less rules and let's drivers actually race. Thus making the sport more enjoyable than F1
 
As much as I enjoy F1, I much prefer touring cars. Less rules and let's drivers actually race. Thus making the sport more enjoyable than F1

Very different with open wheelers though, much more serious consequences for getting in a tangle and having a nudge of an opponent, I agree though it is usually great racing, and cheap as chips in comparison, still let kids in free at Croft!
 
Is the DAS just for warming tyres after safety cars / formation lap or will they use it in a racing situation?
The simple answer is no one knows because no one actually knows ( 100 % ) what it really does.

As Jenson said it’s big and technical so it must be giving you a lot more than warm
Tyres to risk putting it on the car.
 
The simple answer is no one knows because no one actually knows ( 100 % ) what it really does.

As Jenson said it’s big and technical so it must be giving you a lot more than warm
Tyres to risk putting it on the car.
I was watching out for Merc drivers using it during the race, but as Hamilton won so easily he was rarely featured. The only times I saw it being used was on formation lap and after one of the safety cars, so it is definitely there for tyre warming but what else it does as you say, nobody knows.
 
The ex F1 drivers including paul di resta were of the opinion that you don’t put something that risky and (let’s face it) controversial without it being worth the risk.
 
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