Starmer is a lying rat/Corbyn was chuffing useless - discuss

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"Nothing new at all" but you've slammed that debunk into reverse. Mental gymnastics, indeed.

When someone makes a doubtful claim it's generally up to them to demonstrate its veracity. Not for someone else to disprove it. That's just basic Stu come on .

I didn't say I was confused, I said there was confusion between media appearance and campaign event figures

Who or what is confused? It only appears to be you because you were so certain the first time around, now not so.

If you think the Labour for Jeremy fact-checking campaign is confused then you need to do your due diligence before hanging your hat on a claim.

but you have no right to ask for evidence from me when I've been waiting 10 months for evidence of a claim you made. Have you found it yet ?

I haven't needed to 'find it'. I've been aware of it for some time. More than 10 months in fact.

Speaking of evidence. Many times over the years you've repeated the falsehood that the second referendum was Starmer's idea and he went off piste and announced it in his conference speech.

You've been told time and time again that's not what happened but you've repeated the allegation once more on this thread.

You backtracked slightly in saying that the referendum came from a conference motion but the announcement wasn't in Starmer's original speech and Corbyn was against it anyway.

You have been provided with evidence from Chris_Boro that your allegation is completely false. In an interview with Diane Abbott she states unequivocally that Starmer "wasn't going off script" and "That's Jeremy's position, that's Keir's position, and that is the position of the entire shadow cabinet." Further, she states "Jeremy agrees with Keir and I agree with Jeremy."

You went remarkably quiet after that