Spain extend lockdown by 15 days

Boris is way behind and he's putting us at risk.

My comment was very much tongue in cheek (if that's the right phrase) Corcaigh - I see it's still "advice" being given out, which from what I can see from over here, is being totally ignored by a significant percentage

Its going to get very very messy in the UK very very soon
 
I find it interesting (probably the wrong word) that here in Spain, and from what I can see France and Italy, the lockdown was imposed, people understood the need, and it's pretty much being adhered to.

In the UK, nothing has been imposed, and people are ignoring advice - why ? Brits can't be "that" different from Spaniards, French, and Italians in terms of understanding the potential consequences of this can they ?
 
I find it interesting (probably the wrong word) is that here in Spain, and from what I can see France and Italy, the lockdown was imposed, people understood the need, and it's pretty much being adhered to.

In the UK, nothing has been imposed, and people are ignoring advice - why ? Brits can't be "that" different from Spaniards, French, and Italians in terms of understanding the potential consequences of this can they ?
Very good point.
 
Just watching Boris' news conference

Yet again it's all "urges", "recommends", "suggests", "please don't ..." - the language is all wrong
Agreed. I have been saying this since around 10 days ago. When the autonomous regions of Spain started the lock down process. A few days in advance of when the central government edict came into force.
 
In relation to wearing masks these aren’t even an issue in the uk so if such a thing was an issue then what a mask 😷 for every house.

It’s a shambles
 
Boris is way behind and he's putting us at risk.
No your wrong, people are putting themselves at risk by not listening.
He just said, if people aren't prepared to do it sensibly then they are going to have go step in with tougher measures.
You cant blame Boris if you cant responsibility for your own actions.
 
No your wrong, people are putting themselves at risk by not listening.
He just said, if people aren't prepared to do it sensibly then they are going to have go step in with tougher measures.
You cant blame Boris if you cant responsibility for your own actions.
Oh yes you can. He is the one who is setting out the policy that is supposed to be protecting the country. He has failed miserably.

As I have said on other posts. By now he should have built a cross party working group to set policy. So the finger cannot be pointed at people for political party reasons. He has not done this. Then he has failed to provide strong leadership. In the longer term this is likely to cause more deaths. Every avoidable death is a bad thing. Particularly for the family and friends involved.
 
I think the way that Boris is handling it is quite good, even though I have nothing to compare this to.
I also think that a lot of the general public are ignoring Boris and going about there normal day to day business, because;

A) We're British and we soldier on in the face of adversity.
B) We dont believe a thing that the government tells us due to conditioning from previous governments.
C) Boris is an imbecile and people are choosing to ignore him.

Only the insane are ignoring the warnings, and if they cannot see what is happening in other countries without realising the same is going to happen to us then I hope that COVID-19 wipes them out.

Just for the record, The only time I have left the house is to go to work since last Monday and I will continue to have little social interaction with others until I have been told that it is safe to do so!
 
Oh yes you can. He is the one who is setting out the policy that is supposed to be protecting the country. He has failed miserably.

As I have said on other posts. By now he should have built a cross party working group to set policy. So the finger cannot be pointed at people for political party reasons. He has not done this. Then he has failed to provide strong leadership. In the longer term this is likely to cause more deaths. Every avoidable death is a bad thing. Particularly for the family and friends involved.
In hindsight he should have closed down the country.
The only reason being is that far too many people are not clever enough to listen and understand the advise he gave could save lives.
 
No your wrong, people are putting themselves at risk by not listening.
He just said, if people aren't prepared to do it sensibly then they are going to have go step in with tougher measures.
You cant blame Boris if you cant responsibility for your own actions.

My last response or I'll be in danger of banging on about it too much .....

It's been obvious (observing from over here) that people in the UK AREN'T prepared to do it sensibly so they need to have it imposed on them ...... as Italy, France, and Spain did as soon as they recognised the scale of this.

As per my post above - I just don't understand why Brits can't see the potential consequences of their actions

Edit - I see Jonny has given me three answers to my question - I'll go with b and c - a is just pathetic (but probably true !)
 
I've done the garden today and stayed home (same as I have for many days) so don't count me in with these knobheads..

That said what's the lockdown doing to vulnerable people in Spain, Italy and France? What about suicide rates and loneliness? They don't count anymore I guess.

How long should we lockdown for? Why do we keep listing Italy's death tally when their scientific advisor stated that the way they calculate numbers is totally different to elsewhere and are actually overstating the numbers?

Why are we now allowing coronavirus deaths to no longer need any form of inquest in this country?

Questions.. just questions.
 
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I think the way that Boris is handling it is quite good, even though I have nothing to compare this to.
I also think that a lot of the general public are ignoring Boris and going about there normal day to day business, because;

A) We're British and we soldier on in the face of adversity.
B) We dont believe a thing that the government tells us due to conditioning from previous governments.
C) Boris is an imbecile and people are choosing to ignore him.

Only the insane are ignoring the warnings, and if they cannot see what is happening in other countries without realising the same is going to happen to us then I hope that COVID-19 wipes them out.

Just for the record, The only time I have left the house is to go to work since last Monday and I will continue to have little social interaction with others until I have been told that it is safe to do so!
The only problem with that response is that it is very likely that they are not the ones that will be wiped out. They will be causing other people to die. Boris should have realised this and should be doing something positive to sort it out.
 
No your wrong, people are putting themselves at risk by not listening.
He just said, if people aren't prepared to do it sensibly then they are going to have go step in with tougher measures.
You cant blame Boris if you cant responsibility for your own actions.
This the rhetoric that is coming down the line in 12-18 months time. ‘It was the people fault we asked them nicely to stay inside’
 
I've done the garden today and stayed home (same as I have for many days) so don't count me in with these knobheads..

That said what's the lockdown doing to vulnerable people in Spain, Italy and France? What about suicide rates and loneliness? They don't count anymore I guess.

How long should we lockdown for? Why do we keep listing Italy's death tally when their scientific advisor stated that the way they calculate numbers is totally different to elsewhere and are actually overstating the numbers?

Why are we now allowing coronavirus deaths to no longer need any form of inquest in this country?

Questions.. just questions.

When calculating death numbers, a death is a death. The comparison is death numbers. The lady just went in a different tangent for some reason

We actually fell behind the curve of Italy today I believe
 
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